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  • #192996
    2008 National Champ
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    Loves the O line. Said Spencer Fano will most likely start at right guard, the first true freshman that he can remember that will start on the o line. He’s high on Mikey Matthews at WR.

    #192951
    22Ute22
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    Wow, Fano starting is HUGE. Our o line was pretty good last year, and if he’s starting, it shows how talented he is. No wonder Michigan was aggressively after him. I’m assuming he’ll play Guard because it’s a little easier? I’d expect him to switch to Tackle in year 2.

    #192949
    MineralUte
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    Whit didn’t say it as much, but Rising will not be ready for the Florida game (he did say 50/50, but it’s not happening. As a joke he asked everyone to pray for him to be ready). They are hoping he’s ready to roll for conference play. Said Barnes is the starter now, but Johnson has gained a lot of ground in the last few days.

    Kuithe is also still recovering. I got the vibe recovery could be a while. Mentioned that Yassmin is much better, and is also impressed with Landen King at TE, a transfer from Auburn.

    Kicking will be much improved. Punting will be better, and field goals will be noticeably better with Cole Becker coming in from Colorado.

    Loves the O line. Said Spencer Fano will most likely start at right guard, the first true freshman that he can remember that will start on the o line. He’s high on Mikey Matthews at WR.

    Said that the defense, top to bottom, is the strongest he has ever had. Believes Vaki and Bishop are the best safety tandem in the country. Very high on Logan Fano at DE, and the Damuni at LB.

    Said that with the move to the BIG12 they’ll pull some resources from CA to have a larger presence in TX (but will still go after CA hard). While answering a question, he said at the begin of the spring recruiting cycle they have a list of about 1,500 prospects. That gets whittled down pretty quickly. They can then offer 80 of so official visits, and like to sign 30-35 players.

    #192860
    Rick
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    It will be a critical match up. I do worry, like you, that our ends are a little undersized. As you said, Fillinger has gotten bigger and Fano will over the next few years. The other ends will be match ups of speed versus size – O’Toole and Ellis in particular.

    But that doesn’t factor in the impact of our tackles. I don’t care who it is, I like our interior line against anyone. Looks like this will test that thought. If we win those match ups it naturally opens things up for the outside.

    Florida has two strong running backs. They’ll want to establish the run. I think we have the line to shut them down.

    #192858
    22Ute22
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    A lot of Florida fans seem to think they’ll dominate in the trenches based on the weight disparity seen below. I pulled this info from a tweet.

    “Big size advantage in the trenches to FL.

    Projected starters:
    UF’s OL – averages 6’5” 325
    Utah’s DL – averages 6’3” 285
    UF + 40lbs

    UF’s DL – avg 6’5” 305
    Utah’s OL – avg 6’4” 315
    Utah +10lbs”

    There is something to be said about Utah’s DE’s generally being on the smaller side. Fano and Ellis are both 246. O’Toole was a bit undersized last year imo, but he seems to have put on some good weight to get to 251. Our heaviest DE is Van (6’4 260), and he’s the same size as what most people consider to be a good weight DE.

    Here is PFF’s list of the best returning DE’s/Edge rushers in 2023:

    Jared Verse (FSU): 6’4 260
    Bralen Trice (Washington): 6’4 274
    Chop Robinson (Penn State): 6’3 250
    Dallas Turner (Alabama): 6’4 242 – important to note that he is listed as a LB, but I think he’s mainly a pass rusher. He is expected to be a 1-2 round draft pick, but he was also a 5 star talent, and draft experts think he is a bit undersized.
    Mykel Williams (Georgia): 6’5 265
    JT Tuimoloau (Ohio State): 6’4 270
    Laiatu Latu (UCLA): 6’5 265
    Brandon Dorlus (Oregon): 6’3 290
    Gabriel Murphy (UCLA): 6’3 260
    Princely Umanmielen (Florida): 6’5 254

    Average weight: 263
    Excluding Dorlus and Turner: 262.25
    Average of Utah’s 2-deep (Elliss, O’Toole, Fano, and Van): 250

    A 13 pound difference is quite large, and I’ve always wondered why we don’t get bigger DE’s, whether by the portal or HS. We did have Xavier Carlton, but we for some reason wanted to move him to DT. He’s doing well at cal as an outside LB/Edge, at 6’6 270. I still believe in our DE’s, but I do think there is merit to the belief that they are undersized.

    Maybe I’m overthinking this?

    Onlyu
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    There will be questions for sure…QB and TE most notably. Not saying we’ll dominate but a 4 year recruiting ranking that borders on a top 25 average and less than 10 Sr’s in the two deep means there is a good chance you return 75% of your experienced players depending on the draft.

    You also have guys like Nate Ritchie, Justin Medlock,Money Parks and newcomers like Mathew’s, Lomu, the RB room and the Fano brothers that will be on the field. DL and Barton return…Snowden, Blocker, etc…the train keeps moving.

    We’ll reload imo. This is a top 25 roster for the next 4 years. QB play is instrumental and that’s a question mark but plenty of young talent to play behind potentially our most talented OL’s in our history.

    We’ll compete for the championship on Day 1…winning it is another matter altogether.

    #191400

    Topic: A couple of thoughts

    in forum Football
    UtesRule
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    Landing Isaiah Garcia was / is obviously HUGE for the Utes and this current recruiting class.
    Watching his commitment video and how they pointed out that if he remains the #1 ranked recruit in Utah at the end of the recruiting cycle, it’ll be the 3rd consecutive year Utah has gotten the state’s #1 recruit (Barton in ‘21 and Fano in ‘22)!
    Getting the top recruits in state is HUGE and only bodes well to the future of the program.
    Reminds me of when Big Rick really got things rolling in hoops. Utah started getting the top in state talent to stay home and the program went wild, all the way to the National Championship Game.
    Hoping for a similar trajectory in football!!
    Welcome to the family Isaiah Garcia!
    Go Utes!!!
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    #190969

    Topic: KW interview on 1280

    in forum Football
    ProudUte
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    He could not care less about being picked third. He said that they will get some fuel out of that and Cam not being picked as at least an honorable mention.
    Was excited that 6 guys got picked on the preseason PAC12 first team.
    He said that this is the best/deepest offensive line he has had at Utah.
    3 or 4 great recruiting years and great player development have led the Utes to where they are today.
    Dumani will be a big asset for the Utes. He will be playing inside linebacker. Lander Barton looks like a Greek God.
    We have gained more in the portal than we have lost.
    We have upgraded our linebackers over the years but the Dline makes them look better. He said that the Dline is great and he wouldn’t trade his top 4 interior linemen with any other group in the country.
    Van Fillinger is amazing and he expects Logan Fano to be excellent.
    We have the toughest schedule in the PAC12 and maybe the toughest of all-time.
    We are headed in the right direction with the TV contract and we should hear something soon.
    PK said Ludwig is promoting JJ as a great player. Whitt said the biggest thing that happened with the team last year was changing JJ to RB. The RB room is excellent.

    #190952
    Yergensen
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    Utah sacks have not been coming from front 4 rush, they have come from blitz packages. Reality remains, the front 4 doesn’t get sacks on their own. Id like to see Fano and Kennedy, experienced and talented edge rushers, play this year. I’m not sold on the guys we’ve converted and I’m tired of having to generate pressure with the blitz alone.

    #190620
    Charlie
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    In addition, I think a few transfers will figure in by the end of the season. If Pittman get healthy that will be noticed. Battle does have promise as does Logan Fano. Damuni may fill in like Reid last year where his best games come down the last stretch. Love to see Becker win games for us. Of the bunch, Pittman, I think, has the highest ceiling next year.

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