4 star OL is committed

No, you really don’t and it’s pretty hilarious that to backup your point, you’re quoting a comment from reddit lmao

Since we’re quoting things. Here’s FOX Sports ranking QB draft prospects since 2000. This is what they said about Alex:

17. Alex Smith, Utah (2005): Urban Meyer’s star quarterback intrigued scouts as a dual-threat playmaker with a high IQ and a winning pedigree. As a pinpoint passer with a crafty game, Smith’s upside as a potential QB1 in a West Coast offensive system intrigued scouts looking for a pass-first point guard.

Smith absolutely was a playmaker. He accounted for 42 touchdowns in 2004 (passing and throwing) – the most in school history for a single season (second was Scott Mitchell at 33). Wilson? Not even top-ten. But Cam Rising was (third behind Mitchell with 32 in 2022) and Johnson made it twice (6th and 7th with 28 and 26 in 2005 and 2008).

But they’re not playmakers lmao

Remember: this all started because your argument was that Travis Wilson was a playmaker and Brian Johnson, Alex Smith (and I assume Cam Rising now since his stats were very similar to BJ) were not.

That’s just pure craziness. Alex Smith made play after play in 2004. He did not just manage the offense – he was the offense. It was the same with BJ in 2008 and Rising in 2022. They were the offenses that year. As I pointed out, in 2015 Booker was the offense for Utah.

Alex Smith was a playmaker. That’s just the truth, no matter how many rando reddit comments you pull up to help defend your insane claim.

Wilson was the best of the game managers but his 2015 season was the definition of being asked to manage the offense instead of being the offense and it’s why he threw 1,000 fewer yards in 2015 than Smith in 04, BJ in 08 and Rising in 22.

End of argument. Take care.

It’s getting sad… Find one source that calls him a playmaker (even as a surface level descriptor and not as it pertains to our discussion, such as the source you provided) and I’ll find three that say otherwise. Or we could just let google crawl and summarize the results it finds and cut to the chase. I mean… we both know how it’s going to go. But since you’re making me do this to you, here’s the entire internet summarized:

Yikes! looks like you lose again! I win. But if you have what it takes, you learned something today. If not, well. I guess you just continue being the same old you.

For bonus points: his status as a game manager is even referred to in his own wikipedia article, the word “playmaker” not appearing at all. Uh oh! And because you’re likely tech illiterate as well, you can right click that image and open it in a new tab to make it bigger, instead of squinting at it like you’ve already been doing.

Passing AND throwing? Do the stats say anything about lobbing, hucking, tossing, or slinging? And this is a bit beyond your level but have somebody smart in the room read it to you: the idea that high stats=playmaker necessitates logically there must be a cutoff somewhere where everyone above that line is a playmaker and everyone below it is a game manager. If not then your premise itself is illogical at its foundation. I would encourage you to try to draw that line, not because the answer would be worthwhile, but because I find the idea of you wasting your time on something so stupid, funny.

Or… is it that the answer is not so simple? And that stylistic differences do not unilaterally result in statistical segregation. Another uncomfortable reality: most consider Tom Brady a game manager by style as well, though he’s made plenty of plays. On top of being the best to ever do it.