NCAA’S WORST NIGHTMARE


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    • #36412
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      UtahFanSir
      Ute Fan
      @utahfansir
    • #36415

      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Also a nightmare for USOC and any fans of college sports not called ‘football’ or ‘basketball’.

      • #36416

        UteThunder
        Ute Fan
        @utethunder

        Even for fans of football and basketball.

        Despite his claims to the contrary, college sports are different and forcing schools to pay players will force many schools to either drop down a division or drop football and/or basketball altogether.

    • #36418
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      Uteified
      Ute Fan
      @uteified

      The assertion that players don’t get “paid” is false. They get paid handsomely, just not with a bi-weekly check. Here are just some of the benefits paid to college athletes:

             Scholarship athletes get free tuition at some of the best universities in the land, which alone can be worth well over 50k per year. They also have increased chances of getting admitted to those universities.

             For the major sports, they get access to high-paying jobs where they can potentially play a game for a living. The market for these jobs is almost exclusively available to them.

             Unlike other students, student athletes get free access to: (1) top-notch coaches and trainers; (2) some of the best training and recovery facilities in the country; (3) free tutoring; and (4) other leisure facilities.

             They also get promotional, name-recognition, and indirect branding benefits. There is a cachet that goes with being a college athlete that can help you land any job. There are also some sports-related jobs (e.g., broadcasting, coaching, training) that athletes have a much better shot at.

      If you had to pay for all of those benefits or their equivalents at market price (e.g., tuition, personal sports training, academic training, college prep equivalent, facilities access, personal branding), I would expect the price to be well in excess of 100k per year per student. The fact of the matter is that the football and basketball revenue goes directly into these benefits (e.g., paying for coaches, facilities, etc.) and it goes into supporting the other sports.

      Also, pointing to the coaches’ salaries is a red herring. First, the coaches are a benefit to the players, training and preparing them for the next level and giving them exposure and access to the decision makers in sports. (Think of how much people pay out of their own pockets for their kids to get good private coaching.) Second, even the best coaches make a few million dollars a year, and that is the highest paid person on the staff. All of the rest of the revenue is funneled back into the school, the other sports, and the athletes themselves.

      If you start requiring payment, something will suffer, and that something will be other sports, and other universities that can no longer afford to field a team and compete. 

      For fans of college sports, at least as we currently know them, we better hope the NCAA has a good lawyer.

      • #36422
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        utahsportsguy
        Ute Fan
        @utahsportsguy

        ok – you try eating with what they get ‘paid’. 

        • #36425
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          89ute
          Ute Fan
          @89ute

          You mean at that all-you-can-eat training table in the Utah football facility? Utah athletes, or any P5 athlete for that matter, are the best-fed people on the planet.

          Edit: obviously you don’t know about this either.

          • #36427

            shakeitsugaree
            Ute Fan
            @shakeitsugaree

            I don’t think every athlete has access to this smorgasbord every hour of every day:

            linky

            Even after revisals to NCAA rules, there are limits to what schools can provide for their athletes:

            linky2

            • #36527

              89ute
              Ute Fan
              @89ute

              This is a little more up to date.

              NCAA votes to allow unlimited food supply for players

              Let’s make no mistake: Hunger on college campuses was not plaguing players across this nation. It was more the restrictive spirit of the provision that irked so many. Now, if schools can afford and choose, they can stuff the mouths of their athletes — scholarship and walk-ons — as much as they’d like.

              In other words, it’s a smorgasbord.

              • #36552
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                shakeitsugaree
                Ute Fan
                @shakeitsugaree

                I’m sorry, but this is simply not the case.

                Unless the athlete is involved in a practice or competition, meals/meal money cannot be provided.

                meal flow chart

                And, your article is from 2014 – the same year as my links, because that’s when the reforms took place. So, no, it’s not more up to date.

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      wcrunner
      Ute Fan
      @wcrunner

      Football and Mens BB provide the $$$ so that track and field, gymnastics, etc can exist.  These media rights deal $$ do not exclusively go to FB.  Also, if athletes are paid, it will not be restricted to FB and BB.  Under title IX, the women have to get a pro rata share of athletic dept $$$.  If FB players are paid, the women have to get paid.  This will mean the elimination of a number of non revenue sports.

       

       

       

    • #36421
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      Anonymous
      Ute Fan
      @anonymous

      It’s a complex issue with a lot of moving parts. Nonetheless, I’d submit that most logical people would subscribe to the idea that college FB/BB are a business. As much as I love college FB/BB, and track/volleyball/etc, NCAA/universities have lost much credibility in my mind.

      If NBA/NFL want a farm system, pay for it. College athletics, at least FB & BB, is a big business.

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