Just GOP things.

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- 03/28/2017 at 5:32 PM #31949
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  UteFanatic
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  Republicans just killed your Internet privacy protections
- 03/28/2017 at 5:51 PM #31952
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  Tony (admin)
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  This will be a probem for Utahns and their porn addictions.
  - 03/28/2017 at 6:27 PM #31953
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    Riot West
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    This will be a problem for conservative law makers as well 🙂
    
    I thought a “Turkish bathhouse rub-and-tug” was a plumbing fixture! I swear!
- 03/28/2017 at 7:17 PM #31957
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  zeous
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  No, they didn’t. Your rights are not granted by government. If harm is done as a result, a class action can and should be filed.
  
  We Americans need to eradicate the automatic thought that we are obligated to obey every code congress creates. That is not how it works. We are not slaves unless we consent to it.
- 03/28/2017 at 8:14 PM #31962
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  PorterRockwell
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  @zeous you realize that the republicans did in fact vote to strip away privacy protection from people for the benefit of the ISP’s right? Did you read up on this? Google et al are celebrating this as I type this post
  - 03/28/2017 at 8:22 PM #31963
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    zeous
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    Yes, I know Congress held a vote today. Yes, I know the outcome of that vote. However, I am challenging pre-suppositions of the alleged implication. There is law more fundamental than the codes which Congress creates.
    
    But…
    
    Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur
  - 03/28/2017 at 8:27 PM #31964
    
    UteThunder
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    @PorterRockwell, you sure about that? Unless I am misreading the article, Google et al aren’t affected by this one way or the other.
    
    “Opponents of the privacy rules argued it would place an undue burden on broadband providers while leaving large Internet companies like Facebook and Google free to collect user data without asking permission.”
    - 03/28/2017 at 10:20 PM #31970
      
      PorterRockwell
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      The way I read is they will all be able to sell and use the data they already have. So yeah Google and face book won’t be affected. Bad example on my part but now AT&T time Warner Verizon and whomever will be able to sell your browsing history and profit from where previously they could not.
      - 03/28/2017 at 10:47 PM #31972
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        zeous
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        No, common law is still the law of the land here. Juries can nullify any code put forth by Congress. Civil action is always an option. Speaking as though whatever DC dictates is the King’s/Emperor’s/God’s supreme law only undermines fundamental American principles of self-governance.
        
        03/28/2017 at 10:57 PM #31974
        
        Puget Ute
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        The problem is the private info needs to get out and cause actual damages to real people before a court case will even proceed far enough to make a difference.
        
        By that time it is no different from the effects of the Ashley Madison hack, where millions of people suddenly had all their dirty laundry aired.
        
        03/28/2017 at 11:33 PM #31977
        
        zeous
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        Yep. That is the huge problem with top-down code writing versus bottom-up common law. I think if our system is to survive another 100 years, we must find a better balance between those two approaches (because common law also has its flaws).
        
        But I agree, this happens to be an example that is a no-brainer and should be immediately reversed. Of course, everyone has the option to write a notice letter to their ISP that they will hold them to account for the safekeeping of all of their data. Or not use the internet or find a different ISP. Options exist still.
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