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Ute_tastic
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NCAA rule changes for the 2019 season.

Targeting:

After a targeting call on the field the replay officials will either confirm or overturn the call, the “let the call stand” is removed. that means that for the replay officials the targeting has to be clearly targeting, this “removes” the if in doubt throw him out part of the call.

Also, if a player is called for a 3rd targeting call during the season he is disqualified for the rest of that game and for the entirety of the next game.

Blind side blocks:

Forcible blind side block will receive a 15-yard penalty. targeting call may apply to this call as well.

Overtime change:

After the fourth overtime period, if still tied, the ball is placed on the 3-yard line for a 2-point conversion try. That continues until a team has won the game.

Kirk will explain

  • BattleGroundUte
    2 1

    Everybody else:

     

    PAC12 be like:

    • utefansince79
      1

      And they have ruled a field goal.

       

  • UtMtBiker

    What is the definition of a “blindside block”? Where would I find it?

  • ProudUte
    2

    Running errands and listened to Hans Olsen

    He picked his top players in the state at each position group.  I don’t disagree a lot, but I do have a problem with LB and D-Line.

    Dbacks – All 3 were Utes – Johnson, Guidry, and Blackmon

    LBs – Only one Ute and that was Bernard at number 3.  Hans says the top LB by far is some dude from USU and he has Andersen at 2. (I do disagree here.)  

    D-Line – As you would expect he has Anae and Fotu at 1 and 2.  However, he picked Tonga from BYU at 3.  He did say Pnnisini was his number 4.

    RB – Moss, some dude from USU and then Weber.  No one from BYU cracked the top 3.

    QB – Love, Huntley and Wilson.  I think this is fair.  Love is a stud.

    WR – Covey is 1, some dude from USU at 2 and he is really high on Thompson as number 3.  He really feels that Thompson is going to have a breakout season.

    O-line – He has Empey from BYU as a solid 1, then Paulo from Utah and then some other dude from BYU. (I don’t know what to say about this.  I am concerned about our offensive line and I don’t know much about Empey.)

    I am one who wheres crimson goggles, so it is hard to be unbiased.  My biggest objection comes at LB.  However, I understand we do not have any starters returning; but we do have some solid players at LB.  My next question would be at D-line.  It’s tough to complain about having 2 of 3 players named.  Nonetheless, I think Penninisi deserves that third slot.  But, that may be a bit nit-picky.  I was a bit surprised about WR, especially Thompson; but I have hardly seen him play.  Hans loves the guy.

    It doesn’t matter much if you agree or disagree, because it will all be proved on the field.  It is just fun to speculate.

     

     

  • BD
    1

    BYU’s Empey was a freshman all-American and was recently rated one of the top rated centers for this season, although I forget which publication rated him as such. Hoge is their other olineman. He’s solid also. A former Notre Dame 4* commit who transferred to BYU. I don’t know much about either other than what I posted here. But with that, Hans’ rating of them gets no arguments from me, unless someone else can make a compelling argument for Ute olinemen being better. Bam isn’t here yet, but maybe he would be on Hans’ list, but I don’t blame Hans for leaving players off the list that haven’t played, such as Bowen or Bam or the BYU running back SEC transfer that was a 4* recruit.

    • whitlessham
      1

      Good take.

      I think..scratch that… I know that a lot of red goggled Ute fans think EVERY player on the team is better than any other player of USU or Byu-p.  It’s simply not true.

      Ute D-line.  Very good as usual. It might be marginally better than last year but the difference wont be felt. 

      Ute O-line.  I know Utah sent a few player to the NFL last year… but let’s be honest the pass projection could best be described as sketchy.  So, it goes from sketchy to adding two or three new players..yea.

      WR – Until a systematic change happens with coaching this position will continue to be the Utes weak link and the reason they don’t take the next step

      RB- Kwhitt knows how to do this and talent will continue to come to Utah 

      QB – Huntley with a little pass protection is very good. Huntley with bad pass protection is a hot mess.

      Safety – History says the Utes will be fine

      DB’s – This group is very very good. Utah knows how to do DB’s

      LB’s – This is the one group the baffles me, Utah SHOULD be elite or at least consistent at this position.  The fact that it’s filled with transfers and Rudy’s is a shame.

      Kicking- My take, change the offensive  mentality to scoring TD’s.  Stop relying on FG’s to win 

       

      • ProudUte

        I do agree with you 100% that Utah does not have the top player in the state at every position.  I do think, however, that our top three defensive linemen are better than any at BYU or USU.  But, there are solid kids at the other schools.

        I think our offensive line is our weakness and the other schools may be better at these positions.  Paulo may be the exception.  \

        I am optimistic about our linebackers.  However, we have no returning starters.  So, we will have to see how these guys work together.  Will they be as good as Barton and Hansen?  Maybe, maybe not.  We will have to see.

      • RiseasUtes

        I actually agree with most of this.  Ute fans like to under value BYu players just like their fans do to ours. 

        Tonga is really good(which is why we recruited him to begin with).  I take our players over him, but he would be in the rotation for sure.  Empey was also recruited by and committed to us just like Tonga.  He would be starting at OC for us this season.  I have us better at our starting positions and depth at most positions, but we can stop pretending that they don’t have some really solid players.

  • UtMtBiker
    1

    What am I missing about out kick game?

    Seems to be negative sentiment about our kicking game this year. Utah has been solid at kicker for 10, 15 years? Where is the worry coming from? Any real evidence?

    Nobody expected AutoAndy or Matt Gay to do what they did. I think Kwhitt has an eye for solid kicking talent. I’m not worried.

  • Ute Bc
    3

    If memory serves me correctly the worries stem from the spring game performance.

    • 2011 nuff said. It is similar to that season as far as anxiety. Coleman Peterson had issues lots of them. 

      • Dwight89
        1

        Coleman Peterson dated my (current) wife while I was on my mission. Needless to say I didn’t mind it every time he missed a field goal that year. 

  • 2019 “The Return of Riverboat Kyle, Fourth and who gives a f**k.”

  • A Little More Kool-Aid

    https://www.ksl.com/article/46595237/game-by-game-predictions-for-the-1st-half-of-utahs-2019-season

    Just so it isn’t click-bait, the article predicts the Utes to start 6-0.

  • Zoobs accepting the inevitable.

    Edit:. Furlong is a good dude obviously. Just saying look who he writes for. Editorial proof:

    Utah has won the last eight games and ARGUABLY has the better talent on paper, but anything can happen in this game.

  • COFfrom83
    5

    recently re-watched the 2010 game. Many similarities to the 2018 game. Played at RES, we were possibly looking ahead to a big PAC12 game (our first, at USC; in 2018 it was our first P12 championship game), we stunk up the joint for 3 quarters, and pulled it out in the 4th.

    the next year, 2011, we went to Provo and thrashed them 54-10.

    since 2018 was like 2010, I expect 2019 to be like 2011.

  • UteDuke
    5

    If you could pick any PAC12 era Ute to have on this team, who would you pick?

    The rule for this hypothetical is that the player you pick would play like they did here, so selecting Bolles implies that he is again a raw talent, not an NFL starter. Also, the player is only retained for this year, so you need not consider future seasons in making your pick.

    Personally, I’m picking Matt Gay or Isaac Asiata. The kicking game and O-line are my 2 biggest concerns for this season, and both of those players would go a long way to resolving those concerns. I chose Asiata over other O-linemen because of his consistency and leadership. The Utes need to start strong and establish an identity early in my opinion. Having either one of those players on this team could be the difference between 8-4 and 10-2 it would seem.

  • //r00t4Utes

    So you said PAC12 era so there goes Steve Smith or Scott Mitchell.

    I get you picking up an OL as that is the biggest weakness but I’m thinking I’d pick Marcus Williams.

    • UteDuke

      Yes, I limited it to PAC12 era because it makes it a lot easier to objectively judge, and to avoid having too large of a selection pool.

      I love the pick of Marcus Williams. I was tempted to choose him, as he is one of my all-time favorite Utes and it would make this year’s secondary a contender for best in the country, but I decided to trust the guys we have and look to cover the perceived weaknesses.

  • ProvoUteFan
    1

    I’m waffling between Matt Gay & Chase Hansen.

  • UtMtBiker
    4

    LB is the biggest question mark for me this year so I’m leaning Giani Paul or Jared Norris. Matt Gay would be second.

    • whitlessham
      3

      Giani by a mile

    • Same reasoning for me but I take Chase Hansen.

  • I would take Gianni Paul or Gay.  Why can’t I take Bolles? I would say him by far because I knew how good he was going to be.  

    • UteDuke
      1

      You absolutely can pick Bolles, I just added the caveat that he wouldn’t be any better or more consistent than he was in the year he played for Utah. If you would take Bolles regardless of the learning curve and false start issues he had to start the year, that is a fair pick. I picked Asiata over him only for this exact reason.

      • BattleGroundUte
        2

        I would take Bolles. Moss in his senior season with probably the best puller in Utah history?  Yes please. The guy had some issues but he was driving guys down the field. The holes would be huge and Ludwig would run a lot of action using him.  

  • KoolWhitt
    1

    Some good names so far. Bolles, Asiata, Gay, Williams, Paul, Norris…all would be great to have.

    I’m also considering Nate Orchard and Darren Carrington. Orchard would easily be the least needed in terms of the current team’s perceived strengths and weaknesses, but a D-line with Anae and Orchard on the two ends would have teams punting on 2nd down just to save their QBs some hits. That would be so fun to watch.

    Carrington would be huge just because he was so money. Dude ran perfect routes and caught everything thrown remotely near him and would make the lives of our slot guys so much easier. Maybe Thompson fills that void this year though; everyone seems super high on him.

    Overall, I’d probably go with Matt Gay purely on the number of points he put on the board, the number of dead drives he still managed to turn positive, and the fact that PK is a huge unknown right now. But there’s a bunch of enticing options, for sure.

  • GameForAnyFuss
    4

    My top three, in order, would be:

    Matt Gay
    Matt Gay
    Matt Gay

    Our kicking game this year will leave points on the table, guaranteed. Can’t say that about any other position.

    • Utesbyfive

      Man, I’d settle for automatic Andy.

    • whitlessham
      1

      Suggestion: Score TD’s and don’t rely on three and out field goal.

      just saying

  • Hammer
    1

    Marcus Williams all day.

  • ProudUte
    5 1

    Flipper Anderson’s son, I forgot his name.  Just kidding.

    Tough to pick one.  The picks above are all great.

    I would pick Chase Hansen because he was a great player and team leader.  But, there is no right pick.  There are at least ten guys I could have picked. Nine of them played defense.  🙂

     

     

    • chinngiskhaan
      1

      Flipper Anderson’s son? You mean the one and only droppy drez? I think he may be the last player I would pick out of anyone who has played for us in the last 20 years. Good enough to get on the field, bad enough that he cost us multiple games a year. Most frustrating player ever.

      • UtMtBiker

        Did you see Dixon last year against WSU and ASU? Dres also had Travis Wilson as QB. He was pretty good.

    • UtMtBiker

      Dres wouldn’t be a terrible pick. Only guy to have a 1k season in the p12 era I think. WR could be better this year or could be business as usual, in which case I’d love to have him or Carrington.

  • This is tough, Marquis Blair was my favorite player to watch. I just love his brand of football but I wouldn’t choose him over Marcus William’s. I also thought about Star and how awesome it would be to have him along with Fotu, Anae, Tupai, Tufua and Penisi.

    It’s hard to choose just one but with this current team I’d probably go with Giani Paul but Matt Gay was a close 2nd.

  • noneyadb
    4

    Carrington- all other options are secondary if the offense can score.

  • wtf?

    • whitlessham

      Don’t over think it

  • I’ll take Shawn Asiata. Imagine him blocking for Moss.

    Oh, just noticed the PAC12 era. Still, imagine a fullback in front of Moss.

  • ayoriver
    6

    First article I've read labeling Utes as

    Best option for Pac-12 to make the playoff…
    https://247sports.com/college/utah/LongFormArticle/Oregon-State-football-opponent-preview-Utah-Utes-2019-133600383/

    Granted it says “might be.” I don’t feel like the other previews I’ve read have been willing to make that connection.

  • Hammer
    7

    The great thing about not having yet played a game is the chance to go 1-0.

    😜

  • ProudUte
    2

    Yeah, they might be the best option and I am glad we are getting the national attention.  That has to help with recruiting.  However, the big point is that the PAC 12 is not likely to make the playoff again this year.  I think UW is a year out and I don’t think Oregon has what it takes on defense.  No other team is even close IMO.

     

    • Utesbyfive
      1

      It just depends. If we can get through the season 11-1, my prediction, and win the P12 championship, I’ll bet we’re top six going into the selection weekend.

  • ironman1315
    13 1

    Daniyel Ngata Utah in top 5

  • dystopiamembrane
    1

    The picks spell TCUOA, Texas Christian University, Over All. You read it here first.

    • whitlessham
      2

      Utehubs rainman

       

      Image result for rain man gif

  • UtMtBiker
    1 2

    Utah and ASU in the top five? Nope.

    • BattleGroundUte
      1 2

      Feels like Utah is kind of a courtesy nod in that fab five.  

      • RiseasUtes
        11

        He is from California, why would he owe Utah a courtesy?  Good chance we don’t get him, but he just cut out Oregon and Penn st from his top 7.  

      • FtheY
        9

        Moss graduates this year. Ngata could come in and be “the guy” immediately. Going 10-2 could help too.

        • whitlessham
          5

          Jordan Wilmore would like a word with you….

          • FtheY
            2

            Haha, I’m sure he would. 

        • Utesbyfive
          4

          Wilmore is no slouch. He’s going to be demanding playing time next year, and I assume, will probably get it based on his performance this year, which I think will exceed a typical frosh.

  • gothamute
    7

    I think we have a better chance here than many might think… look at his list…. utah, ASU, OkSt, TAMU?? Other than tempe, none of those are “attractive” generally speaking other than for football purposes. Plus the bible verse means he’s prob less likely to react to the unique cultural backdrop in UT. He’s def being thoughtful and not just going with the highest brands (just eliminated Oregon and Penn St) like a lot of kids do who then end up fighting to see the field (and nowawadays then enter the transfer portal). I think his brother signed with Clemson last year so that could work for or against them. ASU could be sneaky leader since Eno also gone after this season, but if we win the conference we should be in the hunt for guys like this.

    • BattleGroundUte

      He already has allegations of being “recruited” to attend the high school he is at. Idk I am happy with the current depth. Lest we forget the kids we have but I will agree the competition is wide open. It is also interesting they are hyping up Ludwigs resume with Gordon. 

  • Massey has the Utes #30, favoured to win all but the Washington contest.

  • Note: We’re shown as #31 on the page because he ranks the mighty Bison of North Dakota State at #26.

  • ProudUte
    2

    Number 30 doesn’t seem like a great ranking for what this team has.  I do like the 11 predicted victories.

    ESPN has us losing twice (USC and UW).  I think 10-2 sounds about right.  But, I am not sure the losses will be to USC and UW.  KW is good for a couple of unexpected losses a year.  I would like to go undefeated in games against south teams including TDS.

     

     

  • Dont be surprised if Barefield gets run in the league

    this is not the first time ive said this. Kid has NBA talent. If he really locks in its there for him.

  • Sweetness
    3

    I hope the best for him, but I don’t plan on taking your advice. I will be very surprised, nay I will be shocked if he ever plays in an NBA game.

    He barely got any run in summer league.

    • BattleGroundUte

      I was wondering what he was basing it off. Barefield can’t really guard anyone either. Percentage wise he can be streaky good and then vanish. Love the dude but I see a chance for him overseas. 

      • Sweetness
        1

        Yeah, you don’t see a lot of 6’2” combo guards who are minus defenders, average athletes, and can’t consistently create off the dribble floating around in the league.

        I think he can probably create a nice niche for himself in China or Europe though and still do very well for himself.

  • tysonbrown22
    1

    Hi, Mrs. Barefield, and thanks for visiting the board!

  • Anfernee
    10

    Britain Covey

    OnlyU, the Gandalf of Ute Hub, update on Covey’s rehab and outlook for week one?

  • utahby05
    7

    Excellent question. I too would love to know how Covey, as well as Z Moss, & F Bernard are recovering.  Here’s to hoping they’ll be full go on 8/29.  Go Utes !!

    • ProudUte
      5

      When I heard Covey on the radio last month, he talked about how weird it was going to be to play in Cougar stadium.  It sounds like he believes he is going to play.  I certainly hope so!

  • Onlyu
    27

    I mean he only weighs like a buck thirty so it’s not like he’s carrying a lot of weight around. He’s 8 or 9 months out right now which is about where we see that injury fully healed in today’s world. He’s well on his way to playing.

    I’d imagine he’ll take it easy in camp but should 100% start game 1. Moss and Bernard are/will be fine too. Kuithe at DE, Keaton Bills and Fabrizio are questionable right now. Besides that we are pretty healthy.

    • Tony
      7

      You beat me to the bat signal. #welldone #goutes

    • FtheY
      3

      OnlyU – may I ask what’s holding those guys back? I thought I heard of an acl for Bills, but maybe I missed something for Kuithe and Fabrizio? I understand if you are unable to provide more details. 

      • Onlyu
        17

        Yes…Bills and Kuithe have ACL’s. Blake has been hurt almost since he’s been here. Combination of things with Fabrizio but he’s not close right now.

        Covey is already running SOME routes with the QB’s so I don’t have any concern about him at all today.

        • FtheY

          Thank you for the update!

  • utahby05
    5 1

    Thanks OnlyU. Appreciate your insight !

  • concerned
    1 1

    Covey looked fairly gimpy running up the hill in the video released yesterday. You guys know more than I do, but he looked like he has a ways to go to be 100%. No reason to rush him back too soon.

    • AgouraUte
      1

      I didn’t see him in the video

  • concerned

    At :14 of the video tweet captioned morning run.

    • AgouraUte

      I just saw a group of guys together- couldn’t make out covey

      • concerned

        He is on the left in long pants camera at top of hill. You may be looking at the longer promo video.

        • AgouraUte

          I finally found it. Maybe he knows he has 20 more of them to run and is saving his energy.

  • crazyute
    2 1

    Well onlyU, seems the video doctors know more than you.