Sounds like my golf game today. -1 with two holes to go. Shot +2.
They have to win game six no matter what. It was only a matter of time before Westbrook went off. After the criticism he has faced over the past two days you could see it finally lit him on fire.
Sweet.
Do the Jazz close it out? I read a stat that the Blunder are 0-11 historically in a 1-3 deficit. I think that includes the franchise history in Seattle.
After tempers were so hot last game I wonder if the drama boils over in this game.
I think Jazz close it out on the road. 120-98
Blunder quit and get nasty. Pushoff P not the Stat Padder gets ejected.
Mitchell only gets 25 tonight. It will be a team win with points for everyone.
OKC also has the best record in NBA history in elimination games – they are good at extending serieses. OKC wins tonight, Jazz close it out in game 6.
The Jazz have won all eight of their previous series in which they had a 3-1 lead. Utah has not been in this situation since 2010, when it took a 3-1 lead against the Denver Nuggets but lost Game 5 on the road before ending the series in Game 6. Including their time in Seattle, the Thunder are 0-11 in a series when trailing 3-1, including last year’s first-round series against the Rockets, when they lost in Game 5.
Maybe they mean they are 0-11 in the series not elimination games.
I want Utah to move on from this mess. That being said, as long as they have George and Westbrook, they could easily win. Hell, Anthony could get hot as well.
I think OKC comes out firing. Pushing, shoving, trying to bully Utah around. IF Utah can withstand that, like the last game, I could see Utah going on a 10-0 run, getting up 10 or so, and George packing it in, Anthony checking his bank account, and Westbrook trying to start a fight.
I hope Utah wins, could easily see them losing.
BUT, then again, if George knows he is gone…does he really want to extend this and go back to Utah? Really? I don’t think so.
I could see Westbrook really blowing up tonight. I hope we don’t see anything crazy happen. He is p**sed at all the Rubio stuff and I could see him doing something really dumb…starting a fight or hurting someone.
Yeah either you see a quarter and half of fight then nothing but quit for a Jazz win. Or you see Ok3 showing up. They just haven’t been able to do it consistently. Even game one George had to set a franchise record to win.
Ok start a lot of low percentage passes to start that lead to turnovers. Melo is so dirty with his elbows.
Yeah. They are packing it in. We need to hit some threes. Open this up.
I find it interesting how the fouls are called. It just isn’t equal. Maybe I am biased I must love this team or something.
Refs calling a heap of touch fouls on Utah.
Blunder defense is pretty pathetic. Crowder is going off!!!
11points in as many minutes? I’ll take it.
Random aside: Dan Patrick joked about the push off p chant the other and said Utah had problems with people pushing off. Made me laugh.
WEAK!!!!
Felton getting the all star call on that push off.
Okc gonna quit soon.
Over
Trying to hurt Mitchell?? Or charlie horse??
Didn’t see.
Yeah, Gobert was like a foot away from melo.
It doesn’t have to make sense it just is. Udoh is in….facepalm.
The fix is in.
That is the first time I have ever seen Udoh score.. Seriously I can’t think of the last time he scored.
Two s**tty calls in a row.
I had the Jazz in six. This is what you will see from the Rockets series. Gobert in foul trouble and not allowed to play defense.
How on this green earth can the refs call Wjat they have on Rudy and fabs but not on Abrienes and the rest of the thunder.
The players of the game for OKC 1a Westbrook 1b the refs.
Ok3 is really the black and white.
Welcome! It’s a great forum!
This is an odd post. Are you a Ute fan or other?
A Utah Utes fan?
Welcome & great name. Go Utes
Mitt is that you?
Ha ha. I like sports fan, votes, and now that I have more money than god…well, that’s not true, have you seen that sweet mall?
But, I do have a lot of money and I’m kind of bored, so now I like to watch sports, yell at athletes and collect votes.
Can we be friends?
Greetings. Have you signed your Utes Loyalty Oath yet?
And sacrificed a small goat to the Calves of Whittingham?
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2018/04/23/utah-assembles-search-committee-hires-firm-as-it-begins-task-of-replacing-retiring-athletic-director-chris-hill/
An interesting member of the search committee? Nate Orchard!
National Search committee when his heir apparent will be chosen? Seems like a waste of energy. I wonder if this is to make it seem transparent or something.
It’s not as cut and dry for Brennan. Don’t be surprised if he’s not the AD.
He has a TON of support from the coaches and Hill, but there are others that want the job and they are very impressive as well.
This new AD’s #1 trait needs to be ability to raise money.
I have been on search committees; sometimes it is just going through the proper due diligence to vet the internal promotion candidate while still satisfying all the legal requirements. Also it is possible someone could apply from outside who is a great candidate, you never know – the Utes are in the upper eschelon now so might attract some stellar people from, say, a G5 school or a top assistant AD from another P5. And, yeah, with something like this even there is a committee and some selection criteria there are going to be some influential people (President, big donors, Dr Hill) who can sway the whole group if he/she is really strong on a candidate.
Charmelle Green, Associate AD at Penn St is a Utah grad. There will be some big time people applying for this job.
Riley was saying on his show that there’s a lot of interest in this job from all around the country. Maybe it won’t be Brennan after all.
Pac12 schedules were graded, and Hill signed off on the absolute worst OOC schedule for the next 5 years. Whoever the hell comes in- CHANGE THE F**KING SCHEDULE! TDS IS NO WAY IN HELL A P5 OPPONENT!!! Idaho, Wyoming, Montana are not recruiting hot beds.
Nope. Hill and Whitt know what they are doing and they are doing it right. Show me a PAC-12 team that scheduled up OOC and made the playoff.
Then, look at the PAC-12 teams that won the PAC-12 and scheduled up OOC…and show me how many made the playoffs.
Schedule down. There is no reason to schedule up. Not one good one.
Oregon, 2014: South Dakota Coyotes, Michigan State, Wyoming. They did play Michigan State but they missed USC and ASU all year long (9 and 10 win teams).
Stanford, 2015: Northwestern, loss. Missed the playoffs. Had they scheduled down, they’d made the playoffs with a one loss season.
Washington, 2016: Rutgers, Idaho, Portland State
USC, 2017: Notre Dame. Had they scheduled down they would have made the playoffs as a one loss team.
If the PAC-12 would schedule down, we’d make the playoffs every year like the ACC and SEC, who both schedule down.
Also, this shows how dumb a 9 conference game schedule is. What two conferences have never missed the playoffs? SEC, ACC; they only play 8 conference games. Who has missed the playoff? B1G, PAC, Big 12. All play 9 conference games.
SCHEDULE DOWN. Had Ohio State played Bowling Green last year instead of Oklahoma, they would have made the playoffs over Alabama as a one loss team. Look at Alabama’s and Ohio State’s last 6 weeks:
Penn State, Iowa, Michigan St, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin
Bye, LSU, Miss St, Mercer, Auburn, Bye
Who made the playoffs? Scheduing up Ohio State or scheduling down Alabama? The last six games Ohio State played, Alabama HAD THREE BYE WEEKS and Ohio State played Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin. And Alabama went to the playoff while Ohio State missed it. There was not one intelligent reason to put Alabama over Ohio State other than “Ohio State lost to Oklahoma”. Wins matter more than anything. SOS is nothing more than a bulls**t argument to keep the G5 out.
We are not G5. Be smart. Schedule down.
SCHEDULE DOWN.
The PAC-12 should go to an 8 game conference schedule. Until that happens there is no reason to schedule up. And even then, there is no reason to schedule up.
All scheduling up will do is get your AD and head football coach fired because fans do not have realistic expectations. 90% of fans would rather watch us beat Northern Illinois than lose to Ohio State, especially with a PAC-12 schedule.
I prefer the A B C method that is talked about. An “A” team is from another top conference, “C” would be a team from the Big Sky or other lower division league, “B” would include the Mountain West and at this point definitely includes BYU. Our next 5 years are all pretty much B B C type pre-season schedules.
I like the ABC method as well. The problem is, BYU is still an “A” game. Until we consistently beat the tar out of them, they are an “A” game. And that sucks.
Here has always been my idea:
Schedule BYU for a H/H once every 5 years. Then make a deal with the Vegas Bowl that in the three year period we don’t play BYU, if we aren’t selected to a playoff game, Rose Bowl, Alamo Bowl or Holiday Bowl and BYU is bowl eligible, we agree to play them in the Vegas Bowl ONCE.
This means that every 5 years, we will play them three times. That is a pretty good deal.
It also means that every 5 years we can schedule a H/H with another P5 school and a neutral game with a P5 school OR we can schedule 3 H/H with P5 schools every 10 years.
Everybody wins. We still play BYU 60% of the time, but we also get to start upping our SOS.
I like that idea, though I might make all 3 of the “open” years guaranteed match-ups with BYU in the Vegas Bowl, with the given outs you mentioned for the better bowls. Once we get into the lower tier bowls, I’d much rather play in Vegas with a big crowd, while also freeing up the regular season schedule for more A opponents.
I’m ok with that. I’d rather go see the Utes play in Vegas than El Paso. It’s a great location and the BYU game as a bowl game is a great game.
Once you go BBC, you never go back.
Giggity.
The real question is, why go back? If going ABC lessens your shot as a Rose Bowl or the playoff, then why do it?
Would you rather play ABC (BYU is a B) and win one less game every year (so most years you end up with 8 wins after the bowl game, not ranked) or play BBC and win an extra game every year (most years you end up with 9 wins and ranked)?
9 wins and ranked every day of the week. And if that means playing SJSU or NIU OOC instead of Baylor or Georgia Tech or Vanderbilt or Illinois then I am all for it. And let’s be real. We aren’t prestigous enough for a top tier team to want to play us (if we beat them it is an upset, if we lose, we were supposed to lose…we are to Alabama as to what BYU is to Utah). The Michigan game was a fluke and that would not be the normal OOC P5 school we can schedule for a H/H.
Give me 9+ wins. Give me ranked seasons. Let that lead to top 25 recruiting classes. And let that lead to more wins. And let that lead to winning the south. Then the PAC-12. Then the Rose bowl. Then the playoffs.
You can have an ABC OOC. I’ll take wins, prestige, high rankings, better recruting classes and a BBC OOC. Any day of the week.
USC?
USC is the perfect example of why you don’t schedule up. Look at what they’ve done:
2016: Alabama, Utah State, ND. Their first four games were Alabama, Stanford, Utah State and Utah. No one, not even Alabama, could come out of that with zero losses. They started out 1-3. What happens if they schedule SJSU instead of Alabama? Then it is SJSU, Utah St, Stanford and Utah. I’d bet they’d start 3-1 at worst. They finished the year with 9 wins pre-bowl game. What if they start out 3-1 instead of 1-3? Then they finish 12-1 and in the playoff.
2017: Western Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame. They lost to WSU and ND. What if, instead of ND, they played SJSU and won that game? Again, they finish with one loss and are in the playoff over Alabama.
Look at Ohio State last year. If they schedule down instead of playing Oklahoma, they are in the playoff. Stanford in 2015 (I think). Instead of playing Northwestern, they finish with one loss and in the playoff.
Scheduling up is what mid majors do.
Do what the SEC does. Schedule down. Win games. Build a rep. Hell, Oregon built their rep off weak schedules. It wasn’t until they were consistently winning 9+ games did they start scheduling up. And they didn’t go overboard with it either.
https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-apparently-reviewing-whether-russell-164230337.html
No, but it would be justice if he did.
I just read that the refs that officiated perspective matters the most. Even though Adams didn’t leave the check in table. He won’t be suspended those refs practically had his back all game.
It cost him 10k so it has been labeled a gray area.
Hill: “We made it a goal to get into the PAC-10 in 1996.”
Four fouls!!
Romney pandering to his electoral base but still with obvious disconnect. He is wearing a Rodney Hood Jersey????? He is a millionaire that spent millions but he buys the discounted traded player jersey for the Jazz game?? That is why you lose Romney.
According to 1280, it was actually to support 5 for the fight.
Ok well that is cool. Most would just say it is Rodney Hood. That is who sponsors the jerseys.
A lot of fans don’t listen to local media either. So my buddy in San Fran was roasting him. Millionaire can’t afford the 300 Mitchell jersey online?
Oh yeah I get that part about not listening to local media. And if that were the case he would deserve the roast. However, my question is not whether he coudl afford the $300 jersey, but whether it even existed since all the Mitchell jerseys are sold out.
4XL or 5XL?? LOL.
Those are Provo-like sizes.
I feel bad for him and think he’s pathetic all at the same time.
One the one hand, if he’s truly there enjoying the game, he should he left alone.
That being said, I don’t think that’s why he was there clowning around. He’s in a dogfight in a primary and might not even win the nomination. He is there being a fool hoping that morons will think he’s an ok guy and vote for him.
He is not in a dogfight in this primary. Delegates skew far more conservative than the primary. Those hyper-conservative delegates are Trump lovers and despise Romney. Trust me, I was at the convention and involved in an FB group. It was anti-Romney conspiracy theories all day every day. Further, Romney won Round 1 easily. Then barely lost Round 2. This was after a substantial portion of delegates LEFT because the thing lasted from 7:00 AM (when registration opened) until 7:30 PM (when the meeting was adjourned). Voting for senate didn’t happen until 7:00 PM. Without this bulls**t, Romney likely would have won the convention, but still been in a primary. Romney is going to win this primary by 20 points. Book it. (I am, in general, a Kennedy supporter. Dude is sharp.)
To me, it looked like he was there having a legitimately good time at a legitimately good game. And how could you not? That game was the most fun in a “hate boner” kind of way that I have seen in years.
Well it is because of all the times he went to Boston sporting events that I doubt his sincerity. But it is not hard to doubt his sincerity because the man is a square in all things. I don’t want him as a Senator personally and wish he would fade away with other presidential losers. This is why I shouldn’t have posted it but the guy was taunting a basketball player. A button up shirt underneath a jersey just screams square.
lol. So true. White shirt and taunting Westbrook? And you are older than dirt? lol.
“Hoping that morons will think he’s an ok guy and vote for him.” Wait. Why are they morons? Can you share a little more about that?
I would say that anyone that votes for a politician because he is at a sporting event is less intelligent, but maybe that’s just me.
Did you just say that you’re less intelligent?
“Hoping that morons will think he’s an ok guy and vote for him.” Wait. Why are they morons? Can you share a little more about that?
He’s an opportunist that won’t go away. Moving here just to run for an office he thinks he can win. Anyone who thinks he really cares about us is a moron. He’ll be no different than that worthless Hatch.
Are you making a judgement about someone before knowing all the information and calling them disconnected? Also, your judgement of this guy seems to be solely about him looking like a square. Welp, that’s a very superficial way to look at things. My question is this: why the hell is it any of our business even if he was wearing a Rodney Hood jersey? We didn’t know it was for the 5 for the fight? Maybe a grandson gave him the jersey last year, maybe someone asked him to wear it for a cause, maybe he doesn’t give a rip that Hood was traded and doesn’t want to spend more money on principal. We sure love to get in everyone else’s business and judge them according to what we think is best for them.
You are right. I will take Mitt Romney at face value and say he isn’t doing anything for politically motivated reasons.
Good point. We should all probably vote people in according to the policies that they believe in that we agree with and their history in office, rather than what they wear to a sporting event. We’re not a US magazine.
Every single idiot c**k yappin’ noggin prefaces any and every comment pertaining to OKC with, “three future HOF’ers…blah, blah, can I please have some more c**k,” or words to that effect.
My question: Really? Who? Carmelo? Why, because he won at Syracuse as a sophomore? George? Why? He’s never really done anything. Westbrook? Why? He’s absolutely nothing without Durant and Harden having his back. Don’t talk to me about stupid f**king triple doubles. Talk to me about helping your team, making others better, leading. Those are important.
Westbrook is a bitch. Melo is a black hole of team work. No real complaints about George, but he DEFINITELY does not have a HOF resume to this point in his career. Commentators should comment instead of fellate.
My .02¢
I love what Isiah Thomas said about Westbrook’s guarantee to stop Rubio. Basically he said it is the equivalent of him going to his coach and saying “I GOT BJ ARMSTRONG!” He also crowned Mitchell as a superstar already. Worth a view if you like this kind of stuff.
4:30 mark is the BJ Armstrong commentary. Near the end is the talk about Mitchell and how he is the next best thing.
Westbrook hangs triple doubles like no other but over that same time frame he has lost a lot of games. Durant was getting called out for liking a comment about how Westbrook is the problem. It was pretty apparent he was the problem. The only one who made an effort to control himself on the Thunder was Adams. Who really is held back by Westbrook. He should be averaging close to a 15 and 10 if not for Westbrook and his padding stats.
Melo is a great iso shooter player who forgets that he plays on a team with four other teammates. He shouldn’t be signed to a deal but he can score in the nba so he will. He would be prolific in that three on three league. I think his numbers approach other HOFers but unlike other greats no one will bemoan him not getting a championship. They will understand why he didn’t get one.
Pushoff P is interesting. I would argue that Mitchell has accomplished more than Pushoff P so far in their careers. I think Pushoff P will be paid very well by the Lakers still or someone else. He should go back to the east though where it is easier. If you called him for his Pushoffs to create space he wouldn’t have a long career. Unlike Mitchell with his sheer athleticism and speed creating space. Yeah I thought it was weird saying he is a HOFer. He has a long way to go just like Mitchell before he is in that conversation. Mitchell is making lists of individual accomplishments that even Pushoff P respects. Even if the Jazz could afford him I wouldn’t want Pushoff P. I used to not say that and I would be lying in saying the Jazz couldn’t use him. I will take a one way player like Oneale and Ingles over him. You get basically the same thing for cheaper and you get team players. Pushoff p has tarnished his image trying to play iso ball.
The most overrated in all of this is Coach Donovan. He should have benched Westbrook on the third foul. Then walked over to him and showed him Mitchell’s stat line at that point in the game. Then said WHO CARES ABOUT RUBIO!!
I have to say that Adams impressed big time. When Melo was “restraining” Crowder, resulting in the blatantly inadvertent elbow, he kwpt his cool while the rest of his team was losing their s**t. Would have been an easy moment to play it up and escalate things, but he didn’t.
Seems like he was trying to restrain Melo. Melo shouldn’t put hands on anyone and Westbrook went straight to bitching out the refs before finishing his rough foul on Crowder. It was unsportsmanlike.
Also great moment in why Mitchell is awesome. He scored 33 with zero turnovers in a playoff game with emotions boiling hot. The one point where I said damn this kid is really good is where he passed up a three point shot for an EVEN better three point shot from Ingles. He had just made a sweet pull up midrange shot the previous possession then they kicked it out to him and he could have shot a semi contested three. Instead he kicked to Ingles over on the left elbow for a wide open look. What rookie sees the court that well? Simmons that is about it but Mitchell actually shoots the ball unlike Simmons. Just shows maturity at an unreal level.
I still want one more scorer to go with him. Maybe the Jazz can draft another option or develop some other guys. I feel like the starting five are good enough but one has to go Favors is going to get paid for sure but maybe not by the Jazz. Jazz need a two way player I can dream right and hope for Leonard ?? Not going to happen but goodness Leonard and Mitchell would be championships for years.
Don’t forget Gobert. That defense would shut all the s**t down.
Yes he has completely turned the Thunder into a jump shooting team almost. I think the first few possessions seeing Westbrook and George retreating from the paint was hilarious.
I just want Gobert to have better hands. He has learned to pass and see the floor better. But he needs a mid range jumper or shot of some sort. Even maybe adding a sky hook like Kanter has been able to do.
He also needs strength. I love gobert, but i feel like he’s severely outmatched there in any sort of contested look, rebound, etc..
Was really impressed by his free throw improvement though.
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