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PlainsUte
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Earthquake trends…

Just going to leave this here. Trendline of depth of recent quakes vs. longitude. Latitude is S. Temple Street. Longitude of surface intersection around 700 E. Firmly tongue-in-cheek, but what if?

 

Utah Quakes

  • Tony

    So most of the quakes are at South Temple and 700 east? 

    • PlainsUte
      1

      Somehow my original reply disappeared.   Just showing how the quake centers are moving due east, essentially parallel to South Temple and getting closer-and-closer to the surface and wondering where they might reach the surface and potentially cause some surface cracks/movement.  Turns out a linear extrapolation puts it near 700E, but from the cross-section below one can see the fault line does not slope in a straight line, but may curve up.

      Wasatch fault cross-section

      [img]https://i.imgur.com/9ZG97vH.jpg[/img]Quake Map

  • UteThunder
    1

    What if . . . what, exactly?

  • PlainsUte
    1 3

    What if City Creek Center would fall into a fissure near the surface?

    • EagleMountainUte
      3

      Free Masons and Governors mansion won’t like it.

      Also could potentially damage a major hospital in the area. 

  • Round 3 Voting, let’s push our Utes thru to the next round.

  • Tony
    2

    This is an unfair and totally biased poll based on where it is hosted. 

    • ProudUte
      1

      This is nonsense.  McGill and Estes are probably the two best players in the state’s history and neither will make it our of the second round.  The problem is – so few remember these two greats.

  • GameForAnyFuss
    1 1

    I urge everyone not to participate in this “Jimmered” poll.

    • uteman12
      1

      I would personally love nothing more then to see Jimmer lose, it would make me very happy. 

      • PlainsUte
        1

        But, by rules of Jimmering, he will win it all.

        • EagleMountainUte
          1

          Well he did take a team all of the way to not the final four or national championship. 

          • PlainsUte
            1

            If the National Champion had been determined by an online poll they would have won by the largest Jimmered margin evah!

  • bopahull

    I have tried but it won’t take my vote. I’m still shocked that Bolomboy beat out McGill. Just not right.

  • AlohaUte

    If I’m being intellectually honest:

    1. Danny Ainge should probably win the whole thing.

    2. Andrew Bogut losing to Sam Merrill is a crime against humanity

    3. Keith Van Horn is #2 in the state and it’s a shame he won’t face Ainge in the final

    4. Jimmer was exciting and good, but he definintely shouldn’t be considered the greatest. I’d take about many other players of him off that list…. Ainge, Van Horn, Bogut, Andre Miller, Damian Lillard, Kyle Kuzma, Michael Doleac, Ferrin, Yoeli Childs, and Poeltel.

    • EagleMountainUte
      1

      Biased opinion is Miller because he played for a title but ran out of gas losing to Them. 

      Eyeball test is Lillard which includes his NBA time. He most likely will be a HOF player. 

      • UtMtBiker
        1

        That’s not what “eye test” means.

    • Utah
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      Dude, Andre Miller would wipe the floor with Ainge. Miller was a better college player and a possible HOF in the NBA. 

      No BYU player can hold a candle to Miller. 

  • Hammer

    I basically hate that you posted this and made me start to care about it a little. Carroll over Vranes???? So much lack of knowledge in that voting with a HEAVY skew to the modern players.

  • Virginia Ute

    We talking best player while in college, or best player overall?  If it’s the latter, then in Lillard, and it ain’t even close….

  • Utah5410
    4 1

    K Claims The Core Should be Intact for Next Year.

    We will see. The clock is officially ticking. No more excuses. None.  Next year it is tourney or bust for Larry K. I hope for his case there arent any big transfers – Both, other core rotation guys etc. Either way, no matter who suits up next year, larry needs to get them dialed in on defense and not make any escuses of youth or schedule oe weight or whatever. Figure that all out before the years.  This obviously assumes we are back to normal by then.  Tick Tock Larry. Time to get things in order and start prepping even though the season just ended. 

  • Tony
    7

    #tourneyorbust 

    • So what is the schedule for next year?  Is it possible to go without winning either A. P12 or B. P12 tourney berth. 

      • AZUTE
        2

        Utah will play at the Battle for Atlantis next season. Also the Pac-12 will be playing a 20 game regular season next year. So only a 10 game preseason with two less patsies. In the past a team would play 4 teams only once in a season but now it’s only 2 next year. Larry said Utah will play Washington at home and most likely WSU on the road.

        The idea is to improve the leagues standing when it comes tournament time and strength of schedule is taken into consideration. It looks better to play another pac team rather then Mississippi Valley St or The Logan School of wayward girls and Barber College like we’ve seen in the past.

  • Hammer
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    It’s officially ticking? Well, ok then. Unfortunately, I think his contract will be honored to the last day even if it’s not the result we want. His contract is through the 22-23′ season, right?

  • chinngiskhaan
    3 1

    If I see another team that can’t seem to figure out how to beat a press consistently, and can’t make easy basketball plays without turning the ball over, I am going to explode! The team has been a turnover factory (in more ways than one) since Krystkowiak arrived. We’ve had more turnovers than almost any other team despite the fact that we play at a snails pace. I love our players, but the brand of basketball we have been playing is hard to watch.

    • Hammer

      I agree. We shouldn’t be last in the country in turnover margin every year.

    • Hammer
      2

      A bad shot is better than a turnover, let’s get the ball up….BATTIN!!!!!

      • chinngiskhaan
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        Could not agree more. Battin just completely lost all confidence in his shot this year. It was bizarre and frustrating all at the same time to see him pass up wide open threes late in the clock only to pass it to one of the other guys (usually a blanketed Rylan Jones, or terrible shooter Timmy Allen) to get off a last second heave. 

        • utefansince79
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          When the shot clock is down to a peace sign or impolite gesture, ANY shot is a good shot and any pass will result in a shot clock violation.

           

      • Tony
        3

        So our new strategy will be to quickly throw up bad shots to avoid being last in the nation in turnovers.

        • Rick
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          Seems to work for some on this board.  How about recognize the defense earlier than 15 second into the shot clock and run an appropriate offensive set each time.  You might get better shots and less TOs.  Battin can make shots in the flow of an offenseve set.  He is not the scrub that this board portrays him to be.  We too good of a guard line to have so many TOs.  It is because we lack offensive strategy and execution.

          • Have you ever thought that it is not as easy to score in basketball as you think it is? You realize that the teams Utah plays are trying to win the game too right? They scheme and plan to stop Utah just as much as Utah plans and schemes to beat them. If it were so easy, everybody would just score at will and never struggle. Another thing that improves an offense is experience and repetition. It’s no different than in football really. When you have a team made up of first and second year players, no matter what you do you are going to struggle. It takes TIME AND REPETITION TO MASTER AN OFFENSE. You judge them WAY TOO HARSHLY. You also have to remember that most of the teams Utah played in conference play this season were EXPERIENCED, SEASONED TEAMS RIGHT? Just wait until next season when UTAH is the team with all of the returning players and all the teams they played last year in conference are going at it with inexperienced, green players at every position. We’ll see who is the wiser one.

            • loyter

              All blame leads back to Larry. Your argument is that you can’t blame them because they haven’t been together, but Larry is to blame for that because he can’t retain players. So he’s creating his own mediocrity.

              Also, Larry’s teams, even with great players (Poeltl, Wright and Kuzma on the same team) have grossly underperformed. That team lost 10 games and lost to an 11 seed in the tournament.

    • rbmw263

      those problems are related. Hesitating creates turnovers and press creates hesitancy. Attack. The. Press. 

      They might snag a ball here and there but you WILL get enough easy buckets to get them out of it. Every god  damn time i see us get pressed we crawl into a corner and say dont hurt me. And its why people keep doing it

  • Ute2
    1

    Hit the nail on the head Rick. Agree on all points. Batin is fine. He’s not a star but he can make shots and contribute.

    Our offensive scheme was disjointed garbage. And games were there for the taking if they could’ve ran something competent…

    I’m shocked this staff couldn’t put something better out there with the talent on this squad. Shocked.

  • CornellUte

    Anyone here successfully transferred football season tickets to a trust?

    Parents are looking into transferring tickets to a trust; is that something anyone here has attempted to do/know if that’s feasible with the ticket office?  No info I can find on their website giving any helpful information.  

  • Tony

    We heard of some friends, and are considering, transferring it to an LLC.  Problem with that is then you have to register the LLC and file taxes on it and all that.  What would be the advantages/disadvantages of doing it in a trust?

    • PlainsUte

      You can create a revokable trust and put your assets in it.  Then when you die the assests in the trust are distributed according to the plan written in the trust and overseen by the trustee(s) without going through probate.   It works like a will with more options and smoother handling; there are other benefits, too.   There are no tax returns for that sort of trust; any income flows through to the trustee(s) and is their responsibility to report and pay taxes on it.  How ticket rights are handled is up to the University’s policy.   I recommend that OP call the U Ticket office; hopefully there’s someone there to answer or refer to someone working from home.

  • CornellUte

    The advantage (hopefully) would be transferring the tickets to be held by an entity such that our family could own them in perpetuity (rather than having them go away upon death). Also avoids my parents having to deal with paying for the tickets, etc. but allows my siblings and I to deal with it.

    the downside, as you put it, are that you have costs administering an entity that owns the tickets, etc. and you also probably have to get the blessing from the ticket office, for which I’m guessing at a minimum they’ll extract their pound of flesh (or tell you “no.”)

  • Charlie
    1

    Goodness. Keep the original account owner’s name on the account. Provide mailing address and email of the person that will do the admin. Continue for decades. As long as the tickets are paid it continues. No one at the U is running down deceased or moved away account owners. Let us know if this ever does not work.

    • PlainsUte

      Just be sure that person’s name is on the mailbox of the person doing the admin.  Post Office may not deliver mail to a person whose name is not on the box (except if the last names match, they probably won’t sweat the detail).

      • UtMtBiker

        No name needs to be on the mailbox whatsoever. Postal workers use addresses rto deliver mail, not names.

  • Hellhound152
    1

    Should be able to.  Bet they will want the transfer fee.

  • UtMtBiker

    Why not just transfer them to you now? Ticket rights arent taxable assests. Technically its ticket prevliges because the school doesn’t guarantee you’re ability to purchase tickets in perpetuity. They could change the policy wherever they want.

  • Charlie

    At one time, I seem to remember, you were allowed make a transfer once. Don’t know the current practice for sure. I expect if there was an issue they would allow a one time transfer to other family members. I have just not seen any effort to take tickets away from families, that would surprise me. I expect much less symphony if you wanted to transfer them to non family third parties which could possibly be a sale. Keep paying for the tickets and likely no worries.

  • Tony
    7

    Name your all-time Utah Basketball starting lineup

    Conversation Starter…  Name your starter for each position. Here’s mine

    Guard: Andre Miller
    Guard: Delon Wright
    Forward: Keith Van Horn
    Forward: Danny Vranes
    Center: Andrew Bogut
    Coach: Rick Majerus

  • GameForAnyFuss
    1

    I think you nailed it. No more debate required.

    Conversation ender.

    • Tony
      1

      #nailedit

      • GameForAnyFuss
        1

        Or, to borrow a term from the Cowboy Museum’s now-gone-viral twitter feed, #hashtagnailedit

  • Rick
    5 1

    It is a very good first team but I would replace Vranes for Bill Mcgill.

  • chinngiskhaan
    4

    It depends. If you are just picking the all-time best guards, wings, and bigs, then I guess you are right. If you are picking a team to actually play basketball, I would not pick both Andre and Delon. They are both abysmal outside shooters. Having said that, and having looked up statistical leaders for the Utes, I’m not convinced there are good shooters that I would replace either of those guys with. Most of our high level guard play came before three point shots were even a thing in college basketball.

    It is difficult to have an all time Ute starting 5 without Tom Chambers or Billy McGill, but I’m not sure who they would replace.

    • PlainsUte
      1

      Also in today’s game Kyle Kuzma should be considered.   Honestly never say McGill play or highlights, but in his day he was dominant.   Love Majerus as coach but need Judkins back to be the “good cop”, especially for today’s players who could jump in the transfer portal if they or their parents are offended by tough love coaching.

  • pedro

    These are hard.  Because we are forced to measure based on the game we know, not on the game as it were when some of the potentials played.  Billy MgGill and Walt M were certainly stars at their time.  Would I pick them for the all time, well no, the game has changed too much since they played.

     

    How’s that for contributing nothing to the converstation……

  • ProudUte

    Your list is good, but I have to consider some of the old timers.

     

    PG – Andre Miller

    SG – Mike Newlin (Ticky Burden a close second)

    SF – Jerry Chambers (Not Tom)

    PF – McGill (He actually played center for us)  Van Horn is a close second here

    C – Bogut

    Coach – Jack Gardner

    Honorable mention players:

    Merv Jackson, Mike Sojourner, Vranes, Tom Chambers, Poeltl, Manny Hendrix, Jeff Jonas.

  • UteThunder

    Andre Miller

    Keith Van Horn

    Tom Chambers

    Andrew Bogut

     

  • UTE98
    3

    A non-answer answer.

    I have to throw Josh Grant’s name into the conversation. He played for Majerus in the late 80s and played a major role in Majerus getting the good foundation he had at the U. I still remember Josh Grant nearly single handedly beating the UNLV dream team in the tourney. Okay, a little bit of hyperbole, but he definitely made them work for it. It was 41-35 UNLV leading at half time. In the end that UNLV team of Stacey Augmon, Larry Johnson (have you met my grandmama), Greg Anthony, Elmore Spencer, Anthony Hunt, Evrick Gray and some chump named Dave Rice (LOL). 5 players from that team went on to the NBA. In the end Utah couldn’t keep up and lost 83-66. UNLV won the previous years NCAA tourney and were ranked #1 every week of the season. They lost in the semi-final game to Duke by 2 points, Duke went on to beat Kansas for the natonal championship. UNLV ended the season 34-1.

    Anyway, Josh Grant was a cold blooded assassin, and has to be considered to at least come off the bench. Not saying he’d start but he was a main reason for me becoming a Utah basketball fan and my attending the U. And look at us now, we’re a skiing, gymnastics, and football school.

    • Tony

      Josh has perhaps the most electric dunk I ever saw while in the audience at the Huntsman, when he went right over Shawn Bradley.  The crowd went nuts.

  • ProudUte
    6 1

    My favorite sport has always been college football

    I am growing more and more concerned that we will not have a college football season in 2020.  The things working against it:

    – Very little spring practice

    – This should be the time that players are weight training and getting in shape.  Is any of this being done with social distancing.

    – I don’t see the number of cases going down anytime soon

    – The Olympics have been postponed

    I would hate to see the season be canceled.  But, so many people are calling for more closures, not less.  Why would we have any reason to believe that things will be back to normal by summer?

    I am getting more frustrated daily with all of this.  As I posted before – I, personally will be fine.  However, each of my children has lost or will likely lose their jobs in the weeks to come.  How do we as a country survive this?  We will survive the virus, but it will take us many years to bounce back economically if something doesn’t give soon.

    I hope we soon see some medical breakthroughs that will make a huge difference quickly.

     

     

  • Tony
    2

    I hope you’re wrong. I fear you’re right. 

  • KiYi-Ute
    1

    Sure seems that we’re headed that way. For now; it seems like my job is secure. But if this economic downturn is slated to continue as we expect, there’s a good chance I’ll be out of a job. I’m unfortunately having to make a decision that renewing my season tickets just isn’t the financially prudent decision right now with all this uncertainty. It sucks.

    Ultimately, I do think we need to continue social distancing/isolating. The next few weeks are going to be very telling in terms of if we can catch up and be like South Korea, or if we’re going to be like Italy.

    Tough times. Be good to one another and I hope that somehow we’ll be tailgating come September.

    • GameForAnyFuss
      4 3

      The sad reality is, we’re already a week ahead of Italy’s trajectory. We’ve already failed at flattening and spreading, unfortunately. The flattening and spreading is what would have cost football season.

      Sadly, at this rate we will have a football season because the apex in this country will be over by mid-April. By the time September rolls around, everyone will have had it so we’ll all either be recovered or dead. I expect football season to happen.

      Sorry to p**s in everyone’s cereal, but the R0 value in America is currently over 3 and we’re doubling the number of cases every 2.7 days. These are just the facts. COVID will be over very quickly, but unfortunately, very catastrophically.

      • PlainsUte
        2

        Part of that rise is artificial because testing in large numbers was just getting started late last week and those results are coming in the last few days and will continue this week.  There may have been 10 or a 100 cases undetected for each one detected back a week or more ago.  For example I think there were a ton of latent cases in NYC and due to people who had travelled into NYC from Italy, for example, and then those that travelled out of there that were going undetected.  FINALLY they are calling that out.   Hopefully other areas of the country learn from that and its not too late to stop this thing.

  • Utah5410
    2 5

    I hope things get back to normal by Easter. That is what trump is shooting for. Of everyone does what they are supposed too we should know the cases by then.

    • PlainsUte
      6 1

      “back to normal” by April 12 is an absolute pipe dream.  USA did not really get going on this thing until March 10 or so; there’s going to be at least 2 months of disruptions.  Is mid-May in the cards to begin easing some restrictions?  Maybe.

    • BulgieUte
      4

      The only way we’ll be back to normal by Easter is if we all die before then and come back to life no worse for wear.

    • ATX-UTE
      2 1

      Trumps a f**kin moron.

  • Utah5410

    *If Since this thing takes two weeks to show.

  • PlainsUte
    3

    The hardest hit area of China is just now getting back to work and opening-up to the outside.   The shutdown lasted about 2 months.   If what the US is doing (more or less, depending where you live) is working, it may avert a breakdown of the medical system, but in doing so may extend the effect out to 3 months or more. 

     I think the Olympics post-poned because its a global event and the waves of infection are timed differently for different parts of the world.  That is affecting preparations, including training schedules, maybe even sponsor commitments — where I live they just cancelled a July bicycle race event; I heard one of the reasons was that sponsors did not want to commit money and people.  No visibility at the moment.

    What is going to be tough is when to say things can go back to normal — there will be a fear of a resurgence in the fall and/or a few weeks after restrictions are lifted.  I think its going to depend on 2 big things — 1) can we find, difinitively, an effective treatment for the virus and 2) when can a vaccine be ready.   Fall is probably very optimistic for a proven vaccine, so large venue events could be at risk through the fall.  We live in an amazing technology world, so maybe the whole world working together with today’s technology can speed-up the vaccine process significantly — I’m hopeful!

  • noneyadb
    7 2

    Until a vaccine is created this WORLDWIDE pandemic will continue. Sorry to be the downer, but society will not return to normal by Easter… That’s highly wishful thinking.

  • Johnny
    3 6

    Hopefully you make it to China this summer. FFS, look at 2009. Are you guys nuts??? We will be up and running in weeks, not months. This is all ridiculous.

  • Hans Olsen was talking about this about a week ago. He said he spoke with some people, like administrators and coaches, but not players because they really don’t know, about next season. According to him, they all say the season has to happen. There’s too much money at stake. Even if that means they play at an empty stadium. He didn’t name any names so take it for what it’s worth but what he said makes sense.