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Hunter Thedford signs with Utah.

  • chinngiskhaan
    1

    he’s a tight end with three career receptions. Just a guy to fill a roster spot? He is tall, he could be an offensive lineman if he bulks up a bit. Who knows?

    • whitlessham
      2

      Lets hope “signs” doesnt mean scholarship

  • chinngiskhaan

    maybe he actually did want utah based on a graduate program. I don’t see him getting any significant playing time.

    • BattleGroundUte

      He caught a game winning two point conversion over Navy. Could have used him 2018 to catch when it mattered.

  • ironman1315
    10

    He’s a blocking tightend. Probably to be used in 2-3 TE sets.

    • KiYi-Ute
      9

      This. He’s a utility guy, a big body to help the OL and allow Kuithe and HamDaddy to be utilized more as receivers.

      • ironman1315
        5

        That is Lord Cole Uncton Fotheringham and you will refer to his lordship as such, peasant.

        • Chidojuan
          2

          You’ve forgotten the appelate First of His Name.  You may self-flagellate 50 times for forgiveness.  The Sorceress will monitor your progress.

          • ironman1315
            2 1

            May thine anger be stayed oh mighty Whitt. *whack*

            Let my humble penitence be the means whereby I am set free. *whack*

            Do not set the yasmanian devil upon me. *whack*

            • whitlessham
              5 1

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              • ironman1315
                1

                And damn proud. Wanna play dnd?

                • FtheY

                  Watch out for the mind flayer and demogorgon. 

                • ironman1315
                  2

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  • PhiladelphiaUte
    3

    Do we NEED another Tight End?

    Personally, I would prefer hearing about athletes transferring in that are Kickers, Offensive Linemen, and Linebackers.

    • Utesbyfive

      Is he eligible to play this year? If not, he’s part of future plans.

      • Chidojuan

        He is, grad transfer, 1 to play 1.  Jake Jackson and Conner Haller replacement/upgrade.

  • UteThunder

    7 of Notre Dame’s opponents have a bye the week before they take on the Irish

    https://fbschedules.com/winners-and-losers-from-college-footballs-two-bye-weeks-in-2019/

     

    For comparison, Utah plays only two teams coming off a bye week: @ Washington and vs UCLA, worth noting that we will also be coming off a bye when we play UCLA.

  • UtMtBiker
    1

    That’s brutal. The Washington bye is terrible for us.

  • ProudUte
    1

    60 in 60

    I know some of you think that the 60 in 60 deal on 1280 is a joke.  However, I think the players like the recognition.  In the end,it is meaningless.  However, it can be fun to speculate and disagree with the local media.

    My prediction for the top ten in no particular order:

    Moss

    Huntley

    Covey

    Anae

    Fotu

    Penisini

    Johnson

    Guidry

    Love

    Wilson

    BYU Player (not sure who)

    Other possibilities from Utah include:

    Blackham

    Bernard

    Bowen

     

     

  • BattleGroundUte
    1

    “WiLSon Is ThE beST iN tHe sTatE.”

    Good hell they are cucks on that station for TDS QBs. 

  • UteThunder
    2

    I don’t understand why people get upset about it. Whether you agree/disagree with the list or think there is bias, who cares? If nothing else, it provides some fun football talk during the long buildup to the start of the season. 

    As things stand now, I think the Utes are pretty well represented, meaning we only have 5 players listed so far and they have revealed numbers 60-39. We are likely going to have another 20-25 players on the list in the top 38. The top 10 will likely have 7 or 8 Utes but I don’t think it will be a clean sweep.

    • BattleGroundUte
      2

      Everytime I take a minute to tune in they are talking about Wilson.  So it is confirmation bias whatever you want to call it. I don’t care I stopped listening. 

  • noneyadb
    2

    First- who’s Blackham?

    Second- two of the three top TE’s in the Pac12 were ranked In the 40’s and 50’s.

    #60in60 is a joke trying to rank players based on last year’s performances vs completely different opponents. Would Wilson, Love, or Bushman have the same stats playing a P5 schedule? No. They should just do a top 10 player ranking for each school and quit trying to keep Brigham on par with Utah.

    • ProudUte
      2

      Sorry, I am just an old guy who screws up from time to time.  I think you know I meant Blackmon.  My bad.

      I admit I was surprised that our TEs were ranked that low.  That is one of the fun things about 60 in 60, disagreeing with them.

      I think that they were fair last year and I suspect that Utah will have 7 of the top 10 players this year and I think that is fair.  Of course USU does not play the same schedule as we do and BYU only plays half the schedule we do.  But, we had great players in 2004 and 2008 when we played a much lesser schedule.  Did Alex Smith not deserve national attention because he didn’t play in a power conference? 

      Do BYU and USU have some very good players?  I say they do.  Look at what USU has put in the NFL the last decade.  They have had some studs.  Is Zach Wilson a good QB?  I think he is.  What would he do against top opponents?  We will see in September.  Unfortunately, we will not get to see Love play against top opponents.  But, he has received a lot of very positive national attention by those in the know.  The Love for Love is not just a local thing.

      Bytheway, you do not have to listen to 1280 to see the 60 in 60 results.  I rarely listen to the station.  I just go online to 1280 the zone once a week or so and view the results.

       

      • BattleGroundUte
        2

      • UteDuke
        3

        USU plays Wakeforest and LSU this year, so we actually will get to see Love play against some top flight competition. We won’t get to see how he might play with P5 talent surrounding him, but that won’t necessarily stop him from showing just how good he really can be.

        • chinngiskhaan
          3

          oh yeah… Wake Forrest is a true powerhouse.

          • UteThunder
            4

            ACC team that has won 7, 8, & 7 games the last 3 years including 3 bowl wins. They are a quality opponent for the Aggies.

            • chinngiskhaan
              4

              he referred to them as top flight. That is far from the truth. They are decent, we were pretty much always better than them as a MWC team.

              • BattleGroundUte
                3

                I think WF is better than TDS, SUU and NIU if we are comparing non conf. 

              • UteDuke
                3

                I really was mostly referring to LSU, and included Wake Forest just as another P5 that I felt is comparable to teams Utah and BYU will play this year. If we’re getting nitpicky though, Wake Forest tends to be known for fielding a formidable defense. Considering the premise of the whole comment was being able to accurately measure how good Love is, their “top flight” defense is all that really matters in the scenario.

  • rbmw263
    11

    watching the sc game from last season

    2 s**t things. We kicked the s**t out of that team. The score was nowhere near indicative of how much we outplayed them. They barely broke 200 yards in that game and without scanning 12 2018 trojans box scores id guess that there werent too many teams that racked up more yards than we did against them.

    2nd s**t thing I love the absolute s**t out of Chase Hansen. First series of the game hes already getting into it with stephen carr. After 2 incredibly flukey plays have usc up 14-0 early, we get one back at 14-7 but still in a hole. We force a 4th and short around midfield and Chase is immediately looking over at the usc sideline begging them to go for it. (I think most people remember him requesting the trojans foh late in the game). I love it all. I love it so much. 

    Next series, he puts a ridiculous touch on a ball that deflected off Guidrys shoulder pad allowing him to get the INT. I have faith in our LB talent this season to play at a high level, but im really going to miss watching CH

  • salUTE
    5

    Utah had 541 yards of total offense while only allowing 205 yards against USC.

    No other USC opponent gained more yards or allowed fewer yards than Utah.

  • UteFanatic
    9

    Chase Hansen was a one man wrecking crew that game.  His hit on JT Daniels that took him out of the game was one of the most beautiful and vicious tackes I’ve ever seen.  His subsequent taunting of USC and telling them to “get the f*** outta here” was EPIC.  Video clip for reference:

    Chase Hansen is one of my favorite Utes ever.  Dude was just pure fire.

    • Central Coast Ute
      1

      That was a nice hit from Hansen. I also remember watching Tupai absolutely destroy their back up, can’t remember his name now but if I recall correctly he broke three ribs on that hit.

  • Tony
    3

    @utefanatic I fixed your youtube vid for you. Don’t use the link dialog for videos. Just paste the video link in the text area on its own line. For more, visit https://www.utehub.com/help

    • UteFanatic
      1

      Thanks, Tony!

  • BattleGroundUte

    If his body had been able to put up with all the beating it endured. Man just sucks. 

    • Central Coast Ute
      2

      He went balls to the wall on every play. Tends to take a toll on anyone. Even someone his size.

      • Tony
        2

        Unfortunately now his balls are still on the wall.

         

  • FtheY
    1

    Mr. Lahey, is that you? 

    • Utesbyfive
      2

      A s**t wind’s a blowin’ Randers.

      • FtheY
        1

        Like s**t and strawberry shortcake, Ran

  • utefansince79

    We started off where we had a player (or two) right in front of the receiver who reached over a defender and grabbed it out of his hands for a TD (out of what should have been a pick).  Then they ran back a fumble and we’re down 14.  After that we crushed them.

     

  • Dwight89
    7

    Utah Football Stats Prognostication

    FPI has Utah winning 8.42 games. S&P has Utah winning 8.9 games. They aren’t too far off this year. Here are the biggest differences between the two metrics:

    FPI only gives us a 45% chance to beat USC. S&P gives us a 55% chance

    FPI LOVES UCLA this year. Only gives us a 57% chance to win while S&P gives us an 80% chance of winning

    Other than that their prognostications are fairly close together. It seems like S&P has always been much better at predicting Utah than FPI, so I’m leaning towards 9 wins for sure. If we can knock off USC in the Coliseum though….we should all be smelling roses. 

  • BD
    6

    Here’s a bit of twisted logic. Utah hasn’t won at USC since what? 1916? I think. I honestly believe that will be a contributing motivating factor to win at the Colliseum this year. Granted, the motivation to win the South you have to probably win at the Colliseum is by far the strongest motivating factor. But the embarrassment of not winning there in over a century will factor in also.

    Utah wins this game. In fact, I think it will be a big win. A few TDs or more.

    • Dwight89
      2

      I freaking hope you’re right. 

  • oc_ute

    was at the game where travis thru more completions to cam smith than his own guys.  we were up early and faded bad.  that said…. usc is still in major disarray and has been for a while.  

  • ironman1315
    5

    Utah FPI is out

    Assuming this holds Utah goes 10-2.

    But FPI is kinda bull s**t soooooo…

  • Utesbyfive
    2

    Cool. If we don’t win the South, we’ll get the Vegas bowl again. Probably against BYU.

    • ironman1315
      5

      If we go 10-2 we’re winning the south.

      • Utesbyfive
        2

        Possibly. Nothing is for sure. I voted 11-1 in the poll, and that’s what I think it’s going to take.

        • ironman1315

          Who else in the south is going to lose 2 games or fewer?

          • Utesbyfive
            4

            USC could do it. Especially if they fire Helton.

            • rbmw263
              1

              thats like saying USC could do it every year. They can, its just less likely these days than it used to be and until theres actually change it remains less likely

      • Central Coast Ute
        5

        If Utah loses to SC like fpi says, there’s no guarantee they win the south.

    • GameForAnyFuss
      1

      Wait, I’m confused…I thought BYU-P was locked into some s**t bowl in Hawaii? And if they’re not, don’t bowl selection committees try to avoid repeating regular season matchups?

      • Utesbyfive
        1

        I dunno. I try not to pay attention to BYU sports.

  • Dwight89
    3

    Actually, assuming this holds Utah wins either 8 or 9 games. You need to sum the % to wins together to get projected win totals. Can’t rely just on whether or not Utah is favored to project wins.

    • UtMtBiker
      1

      Someone has studied statistics.

  • UteThunder
    6 1

    The more I think about having Ludwig as OC, the more excited I get

    He wasn’t great his first time on the Hill, but he was good, certainly better than anything we’ve had since he left. 

    I think we will be able to count on having at least a competent offense while he is here. I just hope he can get things rolling right out of the gate.

  • UtMtBiker
    2

    Probably wont right out of the gate. A new offense always takes some time. Around game 4 we’ll hit our stride. Hopefully the defense can carry us til then.

    • whitlessham
      2

      ^ This

      I’ve seen enough of kwhitt teams to know the first couple of games will be an offensive frustration.

      Anything over 17 offensive points against the zoobs will be a good sign for the future. 

  • UteBacker
    16

    Bill Riley had Britain Covey on his show a few weeks ago.  I think there’s no denying that both Britain and Zack Moss (arguably our two best play-makers) were pretty frustrated with Troy Taylor last year.  It seems like it took Troy a few weeks to figure out that he wasn’t using his main weapons the way he should have been.  When Bill asked Britain what he thought of Ludwig, he was very upbeat about it.  He mentioned that his offensive schemes make a lot more sense.  Sometimes I think we tried to be a little too “cute” in our play calling under Taylor when all we needed to do was impose our will on some of our lesser opponents.  I’m optimistic about having Ludwig back for a couple of reasons:

    1) Ludwig held his own at Vandy against a bunch of SEC defenses.  That’s no joke.  I don’t think there’s anything Ludwig hasn’t seen defensively now.  I wouldn’t have said that when he was still a MWC coach.

    2) Call it a conspiracy theory, but I’m not convinced Whit ever truly handed over the reins of the offense to any of his O-coordinators (maybe Norm Chow).  If, and that’s a big “IF”, Whit were to ever trust anyone to truly call the shots it would be Ludwig in my opinion.

    Anyway, we’re going to find out what Ludwig has learned out there since he left in just a few weeks.  I know a lot of Ute fans think we’re going to lay the wood to our first opponent but it will probably be closer than we’d like (as usual).  The stars are aligned for us to have a special season and I think we have the players AND the coaches to make that happen.

    Go Utes!

     

     

    • Tony
      1

      I like the “imposing our will” thing. Let’s do that.

  • BattleGroundUte
    4

    Kool aid always taste good in July. 

  • ProudUte
    10

    We are getting a lot of national attention

    and that is good for the program.

    But, let me ask this question – Who here on the board thinks we could compete with Alabama or Clemson?

    As for me, I don’t think we could.  I have watched these guys play and they are bigger, stronger, faster and deeper.  They have so much talent at every position.  They have few if any weaknesses.  Our defense could possibly compete for a while, but I honestly think they would wear down.  I am not sure our offense could do much against those two defenses.  Our offensive line would be overmatched.  Moss is as good as it gets, but he could not be successful without some holes.  This is just my view.  I am not saying I am right, just how I see it.

    All of that being said, I think we can compete with any PAC12 team and most any other team in the Big 12 / 10 or ACC.  Georgia looks very talented and also may be a team we would not match up with.

  • Hellhound152
    1 2

    Good morning Craig James.  I was wondering what you have been up to.  Or are you Trev Alberts?  How are things going at UNO?

    • ProudUte
      1

      I guess I am getting too old to get it.  But, I don’t want to be either of these guys.

      • Hellhound152
        6

        James famously quipped after Utah’s 2008 victory over TCU.  “What would happen if you lined that team up against Alabama, it wouldn’t even be a game.”  He was right… Alberts made similar comments in 04′.

        No the Utes aren’t Bama or Clemson but currently neither are Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, need I go on. Enjoy the sun while it shines because it will get dark again eventually.

  • chinngiskhaan
    3

    I think we can keep it close against any team in the country. The issue would be scoring enough to win the game.

  • UteThunder
    1 1

    We could compete with them but we would most likely lose. Last year, Texas a&m lost to Clemson 28-26 and Syracuse lost 27-23. Those teams won 9 & 10 games respectively. I would think we could keep it within a couple of touchdowns, at least.

    If we could have an offense that is even close to as good as our defense, I would say we have a better chance than most at actually beating them. 

  • GameForAnyFuss
    6 1

    A better question to ask would be “who here on the board thinks we could compete with our next opponent?” Because that’s all that matters here and now. IF we were to play Bama or Clemson (and that’s a gigantic “if”), it wouldn’t be until January. Lots of football to be played between now and then. Lots of injuries bound to happen to all teams in your hypothetical. Lots of guys who will step up and outperform expectations on all teams. Lots of guys who will underperform on all teams. Lots of coaching successes and failures on all teams. The question is so far out in the future that it’s pure pie in the sky.

    So, to answer the relevant question, I would say yes, we can compete with our next opponent.

    • Utesbyfive
      2

      Let the coaches have this attitude. We’re fans, and we’re free to speculate on anything we choose to discuss. Thanks.

      I hate forum “normers,” i.e. the ones who tell us how to think.

      • GameForAnyFuss

        Whoa, I think you forgot to take your Paxil this morning, son.

        I’m not saying you can’t speculate or look ahead. I’m saying it really isn’t meaningful to do it because things change so much over the course of the season. Any matchup between Utah and Clemson/Bama would have to be assessed at that time when we see how everyone emerges from the regular season.

        I’m sorry I’m normal. I guess.

        • Utesbyfive
          2

          Judging by your post history (Posting your graduation date) I’m a bit older than you, son.

  • Duhwayne
    3 1

    This is likely the best roster of the next five, or the five before that. We are positioned perfectly to make a run at CFP if we win big all year. I doubt that is what will happen. Injuries are a thing and our OOC schedule is awful. It’s reasonable to hope for a repeat as South Champs but beyond that, we should not be talking too big unless sounding delusional is okay with all of you. 

    We know we have a DL, a secondary, a QB and RB. We don’t know how the OL meshes, and I haven’t seen a WR unit that hasn’t had the drops since 2008.

    Maybe we earn a chance to play a team like Clemson, but probably not. How about we focus on the next game, and see what we have. 

    • Utesbyfive
      1 7

      Again with “the next game” crap. This is a FAN BOARD, not a coach and player board. They’re the only ones who need laser focus on the next game. I don’t. But so many fans think they have to have the same attitude, and never talk about future games. It’s silly, and quit telling the board to emulate your opinion.

      • KiYi-Ute
        6

        quit telling the board to emulate your opinion

        I mean, isn’t that what you’re doing? You’re entitled to your opinion just as Duhwayne and some of us who choose to see things a bit more realistically are. I didn’t think Duhwayne was trying to tell anyone else how to think, he was just simply stating what he feels.

        • Utesbyfive
          1 3

          Over and over and over we get these posts. Is there some superstition of these posters we’re violating by looking ahead?

          I will never get it.

          • ironman1315
            2 1

            No. But I think they’re taking a wait and see approach. No need to be a dick.

            • Utesbyfive
              3

              I’m sorry for being a dick.

          • UteThunder

            I agree in theory, but the problem with fans looking ahead is that it can rub off on players. Believe it or not, our players see things fans say on Twitter, Instagram, and fan message boards like this one. 

            • Utesbyfive
              1

              Sigh. Sorry, I’m gonna say that’s not my problem. If the coaches and players can be that distracted, perhaps they shouldn’t be on social media, at least during the season.

  • ironman1315

    We’ll give em as good as we get, but I am not sure we will win. Probably lose by at least 10 pts.

  • SrJ
    8

    FOOTBALL

    Yeah baby! Phil Steel ranks Utah in his preseason top 25 at #8. Go Utes!

  • UtMtBiker
    3

    Phil Steel has been moving towards a more networkish kind of publication the last few years but still relatively legit. This is pretty awesome.

  • ProudUte
    2

    The Kool-Aid is getting more potent.  I hate to drink it before I have seen the team play.  But, I admit to taking a few sips.  I don’t have any major concerns with the defense.  But, there are parts of the offense that still worry me.  The defense cannot win every game by themselves as we saw in the PAC 12 championship game.

    Should we be ranked 8th?  I just don’t know yet, but I certainly hope we are that good.

     

    Go Utes!!!

     

  • Delon Wright signing $29 mil 3 year deal

  • Central Coast Ute
    2

    The west is going to be ridiculous.

    • ironman1315
      2

      He was already in Memphis, so not that much differnet. But this is going to be a craaaazy year in the NBA.