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Another Guard?

Moving on up… Or down as the case may. Small Ball?  3rd team Horizon League? Come on I would rather have 6’6″ Both Gage!  At least he helped us beat Kentuc-ky

Jon Lucas Position: Guard. 6-2, 180lb (188cm, 81kg). Hometown: Milwaukee, WI. High School: Washington High School.

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  • PlainsUte

    Trivia: my brother graduated from Milwaukee Washington High. I hope the creepy zoobie Twitter replies turn him away from byu-provo.

  • NIL

    If you hate the transfer portal wait until they toss in Name, Image  and Likeness……It will be like watching a merry go round on the fourth of July

  • UteThunder
    4

    NIL and Transfer Portal will be the ruination of college basketball and football.

    • I support increasing student-athlete freedom. Changes like the transfer portal increase opportunities for student-athletes to make changes to better fit their needs.

      I don’t know about the ruination of which you speak, but I am far, far more concerned about student-athlete success than I am about having a good college sports product to watch.

      I will support the University of Utah’s athletics program regardless of its quality or whatever the measure might be that defines ruin/non-ruin.

      • I agree. But unfortunately the portal has not been good for the vast majority of kids that enter into it. They go in thinking they’ll get picked up, but end up not going anywhere.

        • I understand what you are trying to say. Question, if a student-athlete is not picked up, what happens to them?

  • CincyUte

    a merry go round on the fourth of July” LOL

  • PlainsUte

    Donovan Mitchell watch…

    What’s his status for the last few games?

  • UtesRule

    That’s a great question. The debate is can they win enough to keep the 1 seed and still rest him or does it benefit the team to get him back in during the regular season before the playoffs begin? I say rest him and Connelly for the playoffs.

    • PlainsUte
      2

      He (they, including Connelly) might also be rusty in his first few games if he waits ’til the playoffs, though the Jazz should get a relatively easy match-up in the first round.

      • utefansince79
        1

        I feel you want a few games out of them before the playoffs if possible.

        The unknown factor in all this is the 8th seed could conceivably be the defending champs with their stars all back.

         

        • Central Coast Ute
          1

          Even if the 8th seed is Golden State, it’s going to be tough.

  • bopahull
    1

    Connelly might be back as early as tomorrow. Mitchel is scheduled to be reevaluated Friday, so that’s the earliest he will be back.

  • Just saw that he’s out for the final 3 games

    • utefansince79

      And Golden State followed up win over the Jazz by beating the Suns the next night.

       

      Crazy that the top 2 teams will likely face Lakers and Warriors in the opening round.

       

      • Central Coast Ute
        1

        Right? Getting the first two seeds never looked worse.

      • PlainsUte

        Those sandbaggers!

      • AlohaUte

        Maybe the Jazz will get lucky and the Warriors will be eliminated in the play in tourney.

        • Maybe. Steph is pretty hot right now but, that’s why you play the game.

  • cjd1
    9 1

    Only 6 teams have ranked more times then Utah in the CFP.

  • Itacoatiara22
    10

    The 6 are: Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, LSU and Notre Dame. We are tied with Georgia.

    Just so you all don’t have to take the bait and click.

    • cjd1
      5 3

      There are 75 teams on that list that people may have an interest in. Also there are statistics on that list that some may like. Not everything is a bait and click.

  • belli1976
    5

    This is really cool from a consistency standpoint. My stat driven kind thinks it sucks that our average rank is more than double than 5 of the 6 teams. This may come off as a downer statement, but the frequency of being ranks is awesome. As our recruiting continues to improve, the average rank should decrease.

  • Utesbyfive
    6

    Since Kyle coached through all of that, I think that puts him in the top 10 of active coaches.

  • bopahull
    5

    PAC 12 title?

  • Ute Dub
    6

    I think it’s a done deal since the PAC 12 title game is played on my birthday this year.  

    • Duhwayne
      4

      Thank you for your service.

  • MinnySunDevil
    1

    Great read.

    The Pac 12 South is going to be an absolute war this year. Several teams have a lot to look forward to. Everyone has people back. UCLA and ASU’s depth charts are basically in tact, and ASU at times seemed like they might be the best team in the conference but choke-inclined. USC is USC. You guys have a loaded team. Colorado did a few nice things in a really bad situation and I’d wager Arizona won’t lay down quite as easily going forward.

    But we return basically everyone. The losses are a center who was going to be replaced, and a WR who functionally played 1 game. We had an All Conf. HM safety get demoted and leave too I guess, but he was 2nd string… And that is it from depth chart loss. A 6th round WR that barely played, a UDFA Safety who lost his job, a Center who ran his course and had a better player moving in. Out of 44. And the 3rd stringers. ASU’s defense might be the most experienced unit to play P5 football in a generation or two. By my count, there are 3 players on the DL that were at least part time starters in 2018. Two LB’s were full time starters in 2018. 3 DBs were starters in 2017, and another broke into the starting lineup in 2019 after being a significant depth guy (and arguably the best DB the last 2 years). The other two spots, DE and LB, have guys who started last year and were key depth previously. Add in Daniels and 9/10 guys from what was in limited time the Pac 12’s best offense, it screams breakout ASU season.

    But EVERYONE is loaded. It’s going to be a brawl. Who knows? But I’ll tell you, if ASU isn’t a 10+ win team, we’ll be sorely disappointed. This will easily be the best ASU team on paper since the Utes joined the conference.

    • Good post. Honestly, I don’t think this is Utah’s year. If Ty Jordan were here, maybe. Next year though, is a different story.

  • The portal is out of control

    And I believe the NCAA knows this, especially in basketball.  It is NOT good for college basketball.  What can be done to fix it?  I have not researched this thoroughly, but here are a few ideas.

    – Guarantee the player at least a two-year scholarship unless the kid breaks a school or team rule. (This gives the kid some protection.)

    – The portal for basketball opens April 1 and closes May 31.  Kids can only enter the portal between these dates and a team has until June 30 to pick up someone on the portal.

    – A player can make one change without losing a year of eligibility.  A second change would cost them a year and require them to sit out one season.

    I understand young kids will make decisions that turn out to be a bad fit for them and deserve a chance to move on.  But, I don’t think it is good for the player or the schools to allow mass changes.  I also understand that some schools were not loyal to the players.  That is why I have the two-year scholarship on my list of potential changes.

    I cannot speak for anyone else, but this portal-crap has made it so I am less interested in college basketball.  

    This post has nothing to do with LK or coach Smith and who should or should not be fired.  I am just not happy with the portal system as it now stands.

     

  • GameForAnyFuss

    Again, I think there’s a simple solution: Don’t allow players to transfer unless the coach leaves, in which case they can transfer freely anywhere without penalty.

    • ProudUte

      I would not have a big problem with that, but it doesn’t allow for a kid making a bad initial choice.  So, I don’t think that it is that simple IMO.

       

      • GameForAnyFuss
        5

        Why should an allowance be made for a kid making a bad initial choice? It’s a good life lesson: Make a good choice. Don’t expect to be bailed out when you make a bad choice. Maybe that would push kids to study schools/situations harder during the recruiting process.

        Where we need to have leeway is where a kid makes a good choice and then circumstances change in a way that’s outside the kid’s control.

        • Trailgoat

          Very sad, if some of these kids are rolling the dice throwing away scholarhips. I am sure there is a lot more to it on both sides since most D1 athletic scholarships are performance based year to year. Either way, the portal is not helping the perception of college BB from a consumer/fan stand point.

        • EagleMountainUte
          1

          Agreed. Life is about choices with plenty of mistakes. The hard life lessons make you a better person.

  • Utephoria
    5

    I am a big fan of loyality, I am not a fan of the transfer portal and how seemlessly easy it is for these athletes to jump from team to team now. So I agree there needs to be more controls in place to deal with the portal if there is going to continue to be one in the future.

    Listening to the local sports radio yesterday afternoon, they had former basketball Ute Pace Mannion on the air speaking to his son Nicco’s college experience and how he left early and landed on the Warriors. He stated that Sean Miller recruited him with promises, like every coach does, of Arizona basketball being a guard oriented system. Once Nicco committed, Miller changed the system to fit the big men on the team (inside/outside first). The Mannions were upset (Pace) and wanted Nicco to either look to the NBA or transfer to another school. 

    So I believe parents play a large role in these kids tranfering from school to school because they were not promised what was told to them during recruting, coaching changes and it is so easy to transfer now.

    In hindsight, the Mannions wished they would have looked at Utah a little harder because of the system Larry K ran. Rylan Jones was trying his hardest to get Nicco to come to Utah. I think it would have been difficult with Nicco and Rylan wanting to be starting point guards for the Utes at the time.   

    • utefansince79
      1

      In Rick Majerus’s Life on a Napkin, he talked about when he recruited Phil Cullen (out of Chelan, WA). 

      Many of the PAC 12 schools were promising Phil lots of playing time telling him he would be the star of the team, and Rick paid a visit to his home and told him what his weaknesses were he needed to focus on, and that with hard work he may be able to earn some modest playing time.  Phil ended up signing with Utah and said he felt that Rick was the only coach that he perceived was being honest with him.

      Sure these kids seem to want to always find something greener on the other side of the fence, but some of it comes down to coaches making too many promises they can’t deliver on to too many players.