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    Tony
    1

    Stats from last night

    Interesting to look at last night’s box score. Jayce with 12 rebounds, Tillman with 18 points and Allen with 14.  In Majerus style Oregon shut down our best player. Barefield with 5.  We shot 34% from the field and 8.7% from 3 with 23 attempts. 8.7%!

  • snafu
    1

    Live by the 3, die by the 3

    • Tony
      2

      Die

  • Seems like it’s always been that way, huh?

  • Puget Ute
    1

    I love the way Headband Jayce is playing right now. 4-4 (floor) for 9 pts, 12 rbs, 4 blocks.  He needs to roll this aggression and energy into next season.  He was an absolute defensive FORCE in the paint last night, and was getting downright crafty around the basket. 

    Donnie Tillman going 9-11 at the line and Timmy Allen going 6-6 would have made Rick Majerus smile. That kind of FT shooting from the Forwards will win games.  Timmy Allen is also one of the most efficient Forwards in the nation over the last half of this season (.585 floor, .722 FT, 5+ reb)- GREAT news for next year.

  • Everything in the inside was rather cleared up – allowing jace with rebounds, Tillman and Allen with layups.  Oregon was too busy defending the three point perimeter.  That was the MO – take our threes out of the game.

  • We got out coached tonight

    As I walked back to the hotel from this game, I thought Dana had a great game plan;

    “I’ll let you drive and get some easy layups, but I’ll take away your three’s”

    We made no adjustments to this.  This was on Larry tonight.

  • justaute

    Don’t disagree with you, but I didn’t watch the game. Curious…other than having our shots falling, do we have the athletes to compete with UO?

    I tend to think in terms of a spectrum, between execution/smart on one end and pure athletic ability on the other end. To do well, gotta have some of both, like a utility curve. At the moment, I don’t think we have enough on the athletic spectrum; thus, when our execution fails (i.e. shooting, defense), we just can’t seem to overcome the athleticism of our opponent. Perhaps LK isn’t the best x&o guy. Perhaps he’s not the best recruiter, relative to Utah’s reputation and geography.

    When I was playing/coaching D1 sport, that’s how I thought.

    • Skywalker11
      3

      Oregon lost to Texas Southern at home WITH bol bol playing.

       

      You don’t have to be athletic to beat the Ducks. Utah just got unlucky their 3’s weren’t going in. which coencidently, is the same reason Oregon beat Utah at the Huntsman center. 8.7% (2-23) from three by a team that normally shoots almost 40% is insanely unlucky. 

       

      Oregon’s defense was good in the paint but I don’t feel like they did anything in particular on the perimeter to make Utah uncomfortable shooting. The press always seems to give Utah fits, which may be why they were subconsciously nervous when shooting the 3.

       

      On top of that, Payton Pritchard has played out of his mind the last 2 weeks which is why Oregon has won 6 straight. Pritchard, (the only remaining piece of the final 4 team) was expected to be this kind of player all season but had played poorly all year up until the last 4-5 games

      • sweetgrass
        2

        I’d argue Oregon’s quickness, length and athleticism is why Utah struggles to make 3’s against them.

      • palos_verdes_ute
        1

        I thought they defended the perimeter rather tight , this created driving lanes for Tillman and Allen.  Parker never really had a good look.  The up tempo created by Oregon also drove us off on the shots, maybe being rushed.  This was a game plan that Dana drew up.  Larry needed to make adjustment to that and he didn’t. 

      • justaute

        Of course, a team doesn’t necessarily have to be athletic, or more athletic, to beat UO. That wasn’t my point. My point is on the spectrum of execution/smart-to-athleticism, you have to have the right balance. If our team is less athletic and length, and we can’ hit shots — defended or not — then we are going to lose. x&o will only get you so far if you can’t hit your shots.

  • KiYi-Ute
    1

    Dana always out-coaches Larry. It’s nothing new. Dana has had K’s number forever.

    • utefansince79

      Bill Walton says a lot of stuff that has very little to do with hoops, but one insightful comment he did make was Utah wasn’t looking at all for mid-range shots.

       

  • How is it possible…

    that a team can exceed even my wildest expectations for the season and yet also disappoint me the whole time?

  • Redblood
    2

    How can it wildly exceed your expectations and probably not get an NIT bid. What has happened to Utah basketball?

    • Tony
      4

      Not the Utah basketball I grew up with.

  • PlainsUte

    I think the Utes exceeded our expectation as far as the Pac-12 end-of-season standings, but the Pac-12 is so utterly terrible this year, that may have been more due to the level of competition dropping than the level of Utah’s play exceeding expectations.   Watching the Utah-Oregon game was painful after watching Marquette in the Big East Tourney earlier in the evening.

  • Will we even make the NIT?!

    ESPN was talking about 16-16 texas as a bubble team to make the big dance and isnt even considering Oregon. That makes me wonder if we will even make the NIT…

  • ironman1315
    1

    No.

  • Utah5410
    5

    Nope. Done with Larry. I dont blame the players. K recruits them, develops them and teaches or doesnt how to play defense.

  • I doubt NIT.  But a CBI, yes.

    But do we accept?  Are we a proud program too good for a CBI bid?

     

    • Dante Guardi
      1

      what the hell is the CBI?

      • GameForAnyFuss
        4

        It’s the college basketball postseason equivalent of the Idaho Potato Bowl.

      • I think Boylen went one year.   A lot of major programs would turn an invitation down thinking it degrades the schools reputation.

         

        The CBI selects 16 teams that are not selected for the NCAA Tournament or the National Invitation Tournament[1] (NIT), and who are willing to pay a $50,000 entry fee to participate.[2] In the CBI, [3] teams compete on home courts. The CBI is a single-elimination tournament until the final two teams are determined, after which the championship is determined by a championship series with a best-two-out-of-three format.

  • Tony
    5

    We reached our season long goal!

    We got a bye in the first game of the P12 tournament! Woot woot!

  • astUTE
    1

    Yes, we did, and Congratulations!  Coach earned his salary, met our goals, and we exceeded the media’s expectations!  Wow, a top four finish, even thiough we immediatly lost.  No complaints here, except… what… we’re done now?  No NCAA, not even an NIT?  Were our goals worng?

    I’m done bitching, and I’ll admit to having one more hopeless fan’s perspective for the upcoming year.

    We have some young talent.  If we can keep them, well…

    We have by all acounts a great recruiting class coming in next year, if they can grow early in the year…

    Johnson, actually turned the corner in the last few weeks, if he can stay healthy, he will be effective next year.

    If…….

    Perhaps… IF…. coach K can take all of the above and pick up where we thought he was headed following the progress he seemed to be making 4 years ago,… perhaps, I won’t be bitching this same week next year.

     

     

     

     

     

  • astUTE
    2

    Hmmmmm…… now coach K 2 and 15 verses Altman….

    Good second half adjustments, for Oregon.

  • BattleGroundUte
    3

    Utah is 0-5 so much for that third place finish. 

  • Tony

    Pwned

  • Altman owns Krystko

    I hope that changes, but I hoped that years ago.

    Hard to watch us offensively sometimes, defense was good tonight till they made adjustments at half and we couldn’t match them.

    I am afraid for the next year or two we will see much of the same. 

  • Tony
    2

    Understatement of the year

  • Not sure what everyone is angry about

    Just watched the same team I’ve seen all year. K got out coached by Altman and once again p**sed away a high seed. Defense was terrible. One surprise was Jayce towards the second half of the year. 

  • ironman1315

    Because this team sucks and we have been angry for like two years now.

  • Utah5410

    We all know the definition of insanity. What sucks is we are stuck with this contract. I hope the team improves of course. But until I see it I’m done with K.

  • I hate Oregon

    Don’t like them at all!!

  • BattleGroundUte
    3

     Credit to them they are better coached for sure. 

  • Grey haired ref

    discuss

  • LetItRide
    1

    Didn’t matter but that fukr was pathetic that added to the cause

    • BattleGroundUte
      2

      Well 700 said it best. You let them play all game and then start to call random stuff. Consistency counts in officiating. They kind of opened up letting them play then it was all over. Jayce was getting grabbed all game. 

  • Dante Guardi
    1

    I mean, yes the refs were pathetic and a couple of and 1’s were BS. Larry didnt have to go crazy tho, that just added to the situation. Oregon will win this tournament and make a good run in the NCAAs. Hats off to Dana for out coaching Larry, ONCE AGAIN

    • BattleGroundUte
      1

      Oregon didn’t score for 4 something to end the first half. Utah didn’t score for s**t at all during that besides foul shots.