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MDUte
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Is ESPN the wizard behind the curtain?

Very interesting article by Wilner. Sounds like ESPN is forming a monopoly on Tier 1 college football.
Wilner article – ESPN’s masterplan

  • Utesbyfive
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    Yep, and it’s quite a malicious plan if you’re not the SEC.

  • Of course they are. F**k ESPN

    • UTE98
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      Blame me. Okay, I’m partially kidding. About five years ago my best friend from HS visited me, he’s a zoobie, and at the time was working for ABC/Disney on a project about the future of broadcast television and cable. When he came to my house I’d already cut the cord. And told him, cable is going the way of the dinosaur, you need to understand streaming media is the wave of the future. He explained how media creators were asking certain amounts for their content. And oftentimes ABC would buy Comcast, NBC, or other media producers content. But before he left, he said, “You’ve given me a whole new look at broadcast TV.” He said the only thing still of value to broadcast TV was live sports. So… perhaps ABC made the decision to use ESPN to gain an iron grip on sports content, namely college football.

      Anyway, I’m sure it not my fault. He hasn’t worked for Disney for about four years, however that conversation haunts me. I may have to give him a call today and get his take on how things are shaking out. Not 100% sure he’ll know but he’ll probably have pretty good insight into what has transpired and will likely transpire in the near future.

      And of course I’ll blame him for screwing up TDS’ chances to ever get in a Power 5 conference. 

  • The best thing Pete Rozelle and the NFL ever did was to set up their broadcasting packages so that one network could not control the content, and thus, the autonomy of the league. They’ve continued that plan and now have multiple networks who have to compete for the right to show the their content while the NFL determines what is best for their league.

    Division 1 college sports have always been the opposite. Oklahoma (and another school I can’t remember off the top of my head, maybe Nebraska?) sued to the Supreme Court because the NCAA mandated a maximum number of times that any one school could be on broadcast television (nationally). The willingness of the university presidents / conferences to not only outsource their regular season content, as well as ceding their postseason to the Bowl/BCS/CFP, is what has led us down the rabbit hole to where we currently stand which is a place where a single third party entity has the ability to determine the success or failure of individual participants. If ever there was a trust that needed busting, it is ESPN.

    The best thing the Pac-12 can do at this point is stand pat on the number of teams in the conference and wrest control of their content back from ESPN. The networks willingness to force the conference to accept third tier status in the timing of their games is the biggest contributor to the conference’s current status. Only when the Pac-12 is in a position where they control all of their content will they also be in a position to negotiate the rights to said content from a position of strength. Playing night and weekday football games currently serves ESPN’s need for content in windows of low viewership but does nothing to enhance the conference’s status, let alone maintain the fanbase interest.

  • chinngiskhaan
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    Does this potentially SEC division of semi pro ball

    Hurt pro leagues, the nfl in particular? My initial thought are that all the best players going to a handful of teams, and the rest fizzling out means far less developed talent, and less talent overall making it to the NFL. If the player pool to choose from diminishes, then the number of quality players goes down, thus hurting the NFL, which will adversely effect CFB.

    am I wrong?

  • Ute2
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    I’m kinda hoping that the nfl looks at this and says…

    “If ya’ll are gonna go ahead and ruin college football, we’ll just go ahead and play half our games on Saturday.”

    I think that’d set em straight…

    • Duhwayne
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      Agreed. If a large swath of the country isn’t going to watch anyway, then why pretend you’re not competing anymore?

    • Ute Dub
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      What about setting up a D-league that pays players slightly better than the college experience? This league also bypasses the 2-3 years out of HS requirement.

  • OldAsDirtUte
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    OK, time to crank up the 1812 Overture, and go watch fireworks

    Go Utes!  Bring on the football!

  • Tony
    2

    Went to bed at 9:30 LOL

  • Duhwayne
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    SEC making a league, not a super conference.

     

  • Duhwayne
    1

    SEC

  • Duhwayne
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    I think B1G and PAC should merge immediately before their money teams are picked off. If they don’t neither has enough leverage.

  • AlohaUte
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    College FB is the only sport trying to actively decrease it’s fanbase.  Every other league on earth wants to expand viewers and fans, CFB seeks to abandon millions of fans. If this happens or if OU and Texas join the SEC, I won’t watch a single CFB game this season or any future season that doesn’t involve the Pac-12, MWC, or BYU. That includes the playoff.

    • Gugstanley
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      I hope Utah contacted the SEC

    • Duhwayne
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      European Superleague was this kind of effort. The fans were the ones who stopped it. Americans are probsbly too obedient for that even though we’re talking about ceding TV revenue to a subgroup of mostly taxpayer funded state universities, almost all of whom take some amount of federal money. I don’t see anything other than an act of Congress to stop it. The Supreme Court may not agree either. So again it will come back to fans. Total pie will shrink over time but they will have bigger slices, which was the BCS and bowl system all along. Fans of those schools don’t really care if you watch, just make sure you send them your team’s money. If you want to save college football as a national sport rather than a primarily southern pastime, B1G and PAC need to make a counterweight. If you watch games in that league you rewarded it. I don’t watch NFL either.

      Also fwiw, this may be the best thing that ever happens to rugby.

      “Basically we’re all struggling to find a capitalism 4.0, and we’re all fed up with capitalism 3.0, and this is a huge example of the limits of capitalism 3.0. This “I own it. It’s my right. I’ll do what I want with it”. Except, no you won’t because there’s such a thing as a public conception of ownership of these assets, even if you formally own them. There are limits to how far you can push this market logic on the social institutions without provoking a reaction. Karl Polanyi, the Hungarian sociologist and historian from the 1940s, wrote that the big f**k-ups of the 19th century and 20th century were attempts to shove markets down people’s throats to the point where they revolted.”

      https://nograssintheclouds.substack.com/p/how-the-spectacular-comical-failure

  • SalUteopia

    Who’s your 1) O, 2) D, 3) ST, 4) Most Improved player of the year for Utah?

    Feel free to give your reasons, etc.

  • Are you asking the best player on offense, defense, and special teams, and then the most improved?

    If so: best offensive: Ford. I think the dude is gonna be our highest drafted this year. Shoutout to Kuithe though.
    Defense: gotta go with Lloyd.
    Special teams: I really like our kicker.
    Most improved: Van Fillinger is my guess.

    • SalUteopia
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      Yes, your interpretation of my post is correct.
      Would be awesome if Ford has a banner year. Lloyd on D seems like a given at this point. Kicker (Redding) on ST sounds about right. Fallinger for most improved is a good choice, but I think it’ll be CP3.

    • chinngiskhaan
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      ^ airsick lowlander

  • 1. Ford/Kuithe/Brewer
    2. Lloyd/Broughton
    3. Covey/Dixon
    4. Enis/Bernard/Mataele

    • MDUte
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      Great picks everyone. I think or am hoping that most improved player goes to Bam. If that’s the case it means he’s a big-time contributor at one of the tackle spots and our O-Line is great this year.

      • From what i’m hearing Bam sounds like he could be the most improved player. You’re right, can’t believe I forgot about him.

        • SalUteopia
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          Same, totally forgot about Bam. He could very well be the most improved.

  • chinngiskhaan
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    1. Bernard, this is still Utah. Whitt will Whitt. 
    2. Lloyd, no question.

    3. Kicker what’s his name. he’s been very very good but gets crap from fans for some reason.
    4. Clark Phillips, more practice time, more man to man defense = improved play from a talented guy who looked lost most of last year.

  • ProudUte
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    On defense, Lloyd is the man if he stays healthy.

    Offense is an unknown IMO.  We don’t know who the starting QB or RB will be.  Ford appears to be the highest draft possibility.  I hope the key player turns out to be our starting QB followed closely by our starting RB and Kuithe.  However, we should never underestimate Covey.

    I hope Bam is the most improved or one of our D linemen.

     

  • Trailgoat
    2

    Brewer, Lloyd, Kicker. Vele and Bernard tied for MI.

    • SalUteopia
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      Vele for most improved bodes really well for us.

  • chinngiskhaan
    1 1

    This pretty much sums up how I’ve felt about college athletics the last while

  • Tony
    5

    Fixed it for you.

  • chinngiskhaan
    2 2

    I read that an Alabama QB has already locked up a million or so in endorsement deals. I also heard about kids still in high school that are now raking in endorsement deals. The fact that the NCAA had the power to keep these kids from making life changing money so early in life is absolutely ridiculous.

    I know some will argue that if the kids wanted to make money of their NIL then they would have just needed to avoid the NCAA, but in some sports, football in particular, if you don’t go through the college ranks, your chances of making it to the NFL are basically zero.

    There is no other area of human life that functions like sports in America did for so so so long. In what other area are you expected to practice for thousands of hours for your entire childhood, spending pretty much every minute of free time you have dedicated to your sport, while also focusing enough on school that you do well enough to get into a college… Then you are expected to do the same, even more in college… All of this without being allowed to get paid ONE RED CENT for that entire time… unless of course you get another job (that can’t have any connection with any notoriety you may have gained due to your sports related notoriety) to work alongside the schooling and countless hours of practice.

    Yes, they give you a college education (costs more and more each year but is somehow simultaneously worth less and less) and a place to stay, and minimal amounts of nourishment, and while the value of all of that is far more than some student athletes would be able to make off of NIL, there are some student athletes who could have been making faaaaar more money IN HIGH SCHOOL had they not feared the NCAA. Even if most student athletes won’t make money off of NIL stuff in college or beforehand, the mere fact that they WERE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT in order to participate in NCAA sanctioned sports is completely bonkers.