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Waybackutefan
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Anae to the Jets

Bradlee Anae signs with the Jets. He wasn’t going anywhere in Dallas stuck behind two all pro edge rushers. I hope he does well.

heres the link hopefully I haven’t messed it up:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/cowboys-draft-pick-bradlee-anae-signs-with-jets-after-not-finding-favor-in-dallas/ar-AASWxYu

 

  • Utesbyfive
    1

    I think he’ll make the most of any opportunity, and hopefully this is the one that will give him the beat chance to succeed. I have been disappointed that he was so buried on the depth chart in big D.

  • Utesbyfive
    8

    I think USC will be dramatically better this year

    I guess I am one who thinks they have the potential to win 10-ish games next season. They have too much talent up and down the roster, and will be galvanized by their celebrity head coach into wanting to prove themselves immediately. I think it’s inevitable that Caleb Williams transfers in, and the sheer number of incoming transfers to their program is kind of amazing.

    I would not be surprised if they win the division honestly. I think the Utes will beat them here, but Utah has such a rough schedule, I can see them being a game behind. I hope I’m wrong, but it’s definitely something I could see. I imagine they will immediately be better, and may fall off in 2023 a bit, and then be a whole lot better in 2024.

  • ProudUte
    7

    I too think that USC will be a good team this year.  In fact – I hope they are good.  I just want Utah to be better. 🙂

    I think UCLA will also be better.  I’m okay with that as long as we beat them.

  • Utah5410
    13

    False. I’m just stating facts. LR is a offensive genius. Defense, not so much. The culture at SC is toxic. It’s going to take longer than a year to build a culture and get all of these new faces to buy in. Next year is about establishing culture and finding out who buys in and who doesn’t. Yes, he’s accumulating a ton of talent but guess what, SC always has talent.
    Finally Riley us never built anything he inherited Bob stoops team and culture and maintained it.

    Now, will SC be improved ? Yes. Are they scary for the future maybe. Remember, guys from the portal 9/10 are In the portal for a reason…

    Any finally, Utah is a tough team to play. I don’t just mean tough like venue an scheme but KW teams are physically tough. Most college football teams now teams are not. They are finese teams. Look at how OKL performed in the playoffs under Riley every time.

    Point is. If this LR thing works I’m more concerned for the future. If we can build than we are in trouble in maybe years 2 abs definitely 3 etc. this year nah. He may be adding talented transfers but it takes longer than a year to go from 1-100.

    Meanwhile Utah is seasoned guys who are all in. Talented lots coming back and it doesn’t hurt that we get them at RES.

    Go Utes

  • dystopiamembrane
    3

    Who?

  • Charlie
    3

    USC will be better, no doubt, but they will have to earn the south title. I do wish they would have been scheduled to play Utah and ND earlier in the year. They also will not likely play Oregon at all next year. They need to put together a good defense to get to the CCG and that may not gel until after the Utah game. Williams may not be a lock for them because it has not happened yet. Could they be caught without a good QB?

  • D T
    9

    USC won’t be physically tough enough in the trenches. That’s their glaring weakness.

    They had all sorts of elite talent last year in the skill positions, but got absolutely pounded up front. This won’t change immediately. No way.

  • Tony
    6

    Sure they’ll be better. They were so bad this past season it shouldn’t be hard to improve. 

  • Hellhound152
    2

    The claims of “talent” at USC are simply statements based on what was true in the past.  Helton had garbage recruiting the last 3 years.  USC program insiders and USC media have pointed to lack of talent on the roster as a key component to the teams struggles.  The fact the SC didn’t rally behind an interem coach for the first time in the modern history of the program illustrated this.  They could not “out talent” themselves to wins last year because the talent is not on the roster.

    USC is a complete rebuild from the foundation up, this isn’t going to be a quick rehab job.  That is not to say an 8 or 9 win season is out of the realm of possibility next year but the players are not currently on the roster to compete nationally or with Utah for that matter.

    • MDUte
      1

      Depends on who you’re listening to. If you’re listening to SC fans or podcasters, they’ll say there is no talent on the roster and blame it on Helton. But if you look to the recruiting analysts, you’ll find a much different story with a roster loaded with talent. Over 40 4* players and 2 5* players. Clearly SC is loaded but poor coaching has been the problem. And with LR, that problem is solved. I’m expecting SC to be a battle.

      2021 USC Roster – 24/7 Sports

      • Hellhound152

        The eye test says they are slow, small, lack physicality, and are mentally weak.  They may have come in with numbers but the on the field product looks like a good MWC team that has a couple of “dudes” at certain positions.  Those same rankings fail to explain why Utah doesn’t finish in the bottom 1/3 of the Pac12 every year.

        This is the opinion of several boosters I deal with at work who have a real pulse on the program and I happen to agree.

        • MDUte
          1

          Fair enough. I wasn’t advocating that the star rating system determines wins/losses. Just that it’s been the best data point we have for determining the level of talent a program has in comparison to others. Whitt and staff have proven to do far more with far less for many, many years now. That either suggests our coaching is head and shoulders above the rest or the rating system is majorly flawed. Or it could be a little bit of both which I would lean towards.

          My point with USC was to show that although typical USC fans/boosters, who are used to owning the league and contending for championships, aren’t going to believe anything short of a dumpster fire exists thanks to Helton. The roster might not be on par with another blue blood program like Bama which they likely expect, however, I’d argue that we would kill to have our roster littered with that many highly rated players for our coaching staff to lead and develop.

  • Red Rock Parking Options

    Headed to my first red rocks meet tomorrow in a few years. Last time we went we were able to find parking easily near the institute building. Is that still the case? Worse case would the paid parking near the business building be an option? For the football games we just take trax but hoping to avoid that for gymnastics if possible.

  • NarfUte

    If you’re a crimson club member call your rep and have them add parking to your acct – You don’t need season tickets for this and it allows you to park at the institute. Otherwise, there is free parking in pink or pay parking in purpleish.

    parking

    https://crimsonclub.utah.edu/sports/2018/1/8/2018-gymnastics-parking.aspx

  • ProudUte
    4 1

    Our coaching staff

    I need to first say that I love coach Whitt and I am happy with his selections of Ganther and Ellis.  However, I just wanted to hear people’s thoughts about the makeup of a coaching staff.

    Coach Whitt has typically created a staff of people with Utah ties, that he already knows.  The only two coaches on our current staff who did not have Utah ties are Bumphis and Harding.  (Bumphis was a grad assistant here.)  It has worked out for Whitt and the Utes.

    Many head coaches bring in the best person they can find, not necessarily someone they previously knew.  I can see the pros and cons of both.  I know from my experience in management – you want to have a team you feel comfortable with.  On the other hand, you should look for the best possible talent.  I remember interviewing a person once who was very qualified for the position.  However, I felt she would not be a great fit with our current team so I did not hire her.

    Saban reaches out across the country for the best of the best.  I don’t like Sabab much, but you cannot argue with his success.

    Your thoughts?

     

  • pedro
    11 1

    This should be a nonfactor for us fans.  Everycoach, with very few exceptions will bring in someone they know over someone they do not just like nearly ever manager does.  Gather has a snitload of experience and has proven himself.  Luther has limited coaching experience, but has one son in the NFL and the other who saw significant time on the PAC12 championship team as a freshman.  On top of that, you have Scalley\Lud and Whit behind them to help them find their way.

    It’s a tired argument that those who will never be please with what KW does will bring up.  

    You brought up Sabin, but come on, Sabin’s a different class.  Utah will never be Bama.  So let’s look a the other 114 (or whatever the d1 numbers are now) football programs.  Almost without fail, the majority of the football staff has had previous experiences together in some capacity.  It’s the same on the HS level.  

    Dumb argument IMHO.  If we were on the botton tier of the conference, I would consider giving it some credence.  We’re not.  

    Winning the MWC wasn’t enough, getting into the PAC12 (which Kyle played a handson pivotal role that I witnessed) wasn’t enough, winning the south wasn’t enough, winning the conference wasn’t enough.  The guy could cure COVID tomorrow and people would bitch, the bitching is just a bit softer this year.  Can’t we just enjoy him while we have him?

    I’ll get off the soapbox now.

    • Central Coast Ute
      4

      Yep. For RB’s and DL especially, hiring a former Ute isn’t a bad thing. Now for WR, it’s not bad to look around. Bumphis is not a former Ute player but was known to Whitt and Co. From his stint as a GA at the U.

    • ProudUte
      7

      Pedro, you act like I attacked Whitt or would like him out.  That is nonsense!  I posted that I love Whitt and I am happy with the selections of Ganther and Ellis.

      You posted, “The guy could cure COVID tomorrow and people would bitch,” I did not bitch. You are trying to make a fire where none exists. I simply saw an interesting pattern in his hires and thought it would be an interesting discussion during the offseason. I pointed out that as a retired manager – I always wanted to have people around me that I felt comfortable with. I was not disagreeing with Whitt. In fact I was agreeing with him.

      As far as a fan questioning a coach (which I was not trying to do), it is a fan’s right. Coach Mac was once asked if he was frustrated with Ute fans, He replied, “Hell no! I am glad we have fans who are passionate about their team enough to care and voice their opinions.”

      I will say again – I love that Whitt is our head coach. I am so happy that we have him here.

       

      • pedro
        2

        my apologies.  Wasn’t necessarily directed at you, but there are those among us who do, have and will attack him based on this argument and it’s frustrating.  We have a top 10 coach and they just cannot be happy with that.  

        Again, my apologies to you.

        • ProudUte
          1

          Understood.

  • Trailgoat
    13

    Both Ganther and Ellis are more than qualified and probably most importantly understand the Utah family culture. Utah’s family culture is a huge advantage in the P12 where head coaches and staff come and go every year. Bringing in guys that have lived the Utah way and know the program makes for a smoother transition. Thinking with KW and Ludwig 2-3 years away from retirement this may be part of a succession plan. Either way, very happy with what Ellis and Ganther bring to the program. Go Utes!

    • ProudUte
      3

      As I posted – I am happy with the hires.  Both of these guys were studs while here at Utah and both played in the NFL.\

      Go Utes!!!

  • PhiladelphiaUte
    5

    ProudUte:  You’re not wrong.  But as someone who is nothing more than just a fan & alumnus, I wouldn’t know any of the behind the scenes actions that took place for these hires to be made.  I don’t know who was available, and which of those available coaches would have wanted to come to Utah.  What I do know is that Whittingham knows more about this sort of stuff than I do, so I’m reluctant to criticize.  As long as being a former Utah player isn’t some sort of prerequisite to do the job, I’ll be reserving my judgment until after season 2 of said coach on the staff.

    • ProudUte
      1

      I completely agree!

  • Johnny
    12 1

    I will never ever know what’s going on in Whit’s program. And I love it. 

    Bunch of men on mission. No outside noise. 

    Us message board nerds will never have an impact on this program under Kyle Whittingham. No doubt he’s the top 5 coach in the country. 

    Kyle Whittingham is the most consummate professional. Definitely one of the best.

    • Amen.

    • Rick
      1

      Kind of how I feel.  Whitt has earned our trust and I trust him.  Has he made some bonehead choices over the years? Yes.  Does he fail fast and adjust?  Yes.  That is all one can ask of a head coach.

  • SkinyUte
    1

    I’ll reserve judgement until we see results, but will admit that I do share some of the same concerns.  No question at all about the character of these recent hires, as they are both quality people and really define “Utah Man”.  

    My only concern is their experience at this level.  Ellis’ only coaching experience is at Idaho.  While Q did spend less than a year with the Meyer disaster in the NFL, all of his experience comes at Weber State.  These aren’t exactly programs at the same level as Utah and feels like it could be a pretty significant risk.  

    I fully expect and trust that the other intangibles they bring offsets their lack of experience at the P5 level…but it’s still a concern.

    • luke8675
      2

      In my mind everyone has to start somewhere, and it seems like Utah has done well picking up guys who coached at Weber State, SUU, Idaho, and other western schools. I think we have also done well with guys who had no coaching experience before Utah, but had experience in the Utah program.

      If my recolleciton is correct some of the more “splashy” hires didn’t work out as well. Maybe I’m wrong @skinyute, but overall I think Whittingham has done a good job of picking staff.

      • SkinyUte
        3

        Don’t disagree with any of that.

        It’s likely that these hires were done primarily for recruiting purposes (bringing both Utah and NFL ties to a recruit’s living room is a big deal), with actual position coaching being an afterthought.  And if that’s the formula that brings success, then I’m all for it.  

    • pedro
      3

      Just an FYI, the two men these guys are replacing……  

      One started at Utah as a graduate assistant and worked his way through the ranks.  The others vast experience is as a graduate asistant at ASU and RB coach at Easter Washington.  

      • Brichaute49
        1

        If my memory serves me correctly, didn’t someone named Kyle Whittingham come to Utah as either a DL or LB couch, (can’t remember which) from Idaho State? Hasn’t that worked out pretty good?

        • 2008 National Champ
          1 2

          congrats, you’ve cracked the code. All anyone need do is hire from Idaho State’s staff and they will all turn out to be as successful as Kyle Whittingham.

    • Charlie
      3

      Best comment: ‘reserve judgement until we see results’. Do we realize how many times Kyle has hired position coaches? He and all other coaches have hires that don’t work out but I am very happy with the record Kyle has built up. Some wondered if moving his brother to coaching to coach TEs would work out and how did that turn out? I think he has earned our trust to try what he thinks is best.

  • MDUte
    25

    Utah hires Luther Elliss to coach DTs

    All the big guns are coming home to help the program! What a great day it is to be a Ute!!

  • FtheY
    7

    Beat me to it, MD! 

    Excited for this hire. Hope he and Ganther can recruit, we need it. 

    • MDUte
      6

      Agreed! I’d have to think that both would be huge for recruiting, though. If you’re a kid playing either DT or RB with the goal of playing at the next level, how great would it be to have a former Utah star and NFL dude as your position coach? Time will tell but it sure looks like 2 home run hires for me.

      • Dallas

        Has he coached before?

        • MDUte
          6

          Yes, he’s been the DL Coach at Idaho for the past 5 seasons.

  • Yergensen
    5

    Loved Luther Elliss as a player, dominant for us.   Welcome home Luther!!!

    • utefansince79
      3

      A great player and a good man.  At the end of the 94 Freedom Bowl, Utah fans were on the field celebrating and congratulating the players and all were eager to meet Luther.  He was surrounded, in particular by younger fans, and at one point  I looked over, could see he was worn out, and I heard him say something like “I’m exhausted, please let me go take a shower and I’ll come back out.”  But others out of ear shot kept on rushing up to him and he graciously kept on greeting people, shaking hands, and signing autographs wihle keeping a warm smile on his face. 

       

       

       

  • luke8675
    2

    Seems like an awesome fit. Love these former Utes coming back to coach!

  • PlainsUte
    2

    That is fantastic!, Welcome Coach Elliss!!

  • gogotwo
    4

    Dad of Jonah Ellis

  • chinngiskhaan
    3

    You gotta think his name carries a ton of weight in Polynesian homes. One of the best Polynesian football players ever, a good man, and he even founded a charity to benefit Polynesians.

    • dwainegf
      1

      I may be wrong, but I recall hearing that Luther Ellis is of American Indian decent.
      I don’t believe that this matters though.

      • chinngiskhaan
        1

        well… He might be, but he was included in the second group of men inducted into the polynesian football hall of fame. A simple google search shows that he is of Samoan decent. He may also be native american, I have no clue, but he is most definitely polynesian.

  • Johnny
    1

    My boy. Utah making power moves. Luther moved outside in. Perfect move.