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2021 FOOTBALL

will the latest COVID scare cancel out football gain this year?

  • Maybe on the west coast.

    • Utes 69
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      Maybe on the west coast.

      My response…cancel one may as well cancel all………….

    • UteBacker
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      Yes, Central.  The SEC, BigXII & ACC will play come hell or high water.  The Big Ten & Pac12 may have issues.

  • Utah5410

    No. Too much skin in the game.

    • Utes 69
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      No. Too much skin in the game.

      My response…not really, the cancelled out last year!  tds played 13 games

  • Trailgoat
    1 1

    Lack of solid UofU leadership another barrier for Utah on the Covid and Conference alignement front. The poor national public image created by Ruth Watkins and Utah’s inability to replace her along with Harlan who is the young dude in the back row when it comes to critical representation at the P12 table during this critical period. Utah will do whatever the California schools tell them to do.

    • Wait. There’s still not a new President yet? Why not?

  • MDUte
    2

    Texas/OU send the official letter to Big 12

    Almost a done deal. Next up, SEC will vote and extend the official invitation. Does anyone know if this is how it went down in 2010 before Texas backed out at the last minute? Or did they not go as far as notifying the Big 12 that they were leaving along with the other 5 schools?
    Texas/OU notify Big 12 of their intent to leave conference

    Buckeye scoop’s insider reports

     

    Hope this is not true.

  • USC, UCLA, Oregon and Colorado having talks with B1G

    • That is why the Pac-12 needs to expand before others do. They must remain in the game. The best way to do that is with the Big 12 schools Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, and one other.

    • UtTroutHunter
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      None of the remaining the Big 12 teams move the needle nowhere near as much as the top Pac 12 teams do. Everything appears to be on the table at this point, but I don’t think the Pac 12 exists after 2025. 

  • It’s only a matter of time.

    • Gugstanley
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      I hope the Networks see value in Utah

  • Other then the Big10 wanting to pair Colorado back up with Nebraska, there’s no reason they shouldn’t want Utah as well. I hope this isn’t true, but if it is Utah needs to do everything they can to get in the Big10 with the other Pac-12 teams mentioned

    • MDUte
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      Agreed, I hope Harlan is staying in close contact with Colorado’s AD. Seems like all the players that were involved with positioning Colorado/Utah to the PAC are no longer there. But IMO we should be doing everything we can to lock arms with Colorado.

  • UteFanatic
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    If the BIG raids the P12, I doubt Utah would be part of that deal. Really sucks.

    The only consolation to this, is the remnants of the P12 and BIG12 would merge, and that would still be a decent conference. It would be solidly last place among the power conferences, but still better than AAC, MWC, etc.

    • Brettski
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      This is the most likely outcome if the Big 10 raids the Pac12 IMO..

      Big 10 takes 6 Pac teams to go to 20: USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Cal & Stanford

      Remaining Teams 6
      Utah, Oregon State, Washington State, Colorado, ASU, Arizona

      Add Big 12 leftovers + SDSU (8)
      Tx tech, Baylor, TCU, Kansas, Kstate, Ok State, Iowa State, and SDSU

      Seems like a great Conference IMO for football and basketball. If the big 10 raids fewer schools and take Kansas and Iowa state that’s fine too, it leaves more solid programs behind.

  • I’ve seen no credible reports of this

    • Agreed. Most reports are that former big 12 schools are in talks with the BIG. But who really knows at this point.
      Kansas and ISU in talks with BIG

    • MDUte
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      This Scoop podcast sounds scary to me. Wouldn’t doubt it for a second that USC has been in contact with the B1G, they’ve already been on record recently as being unhappy with the state of things in the PAC. I realize the firing of Larry Scott and hiring of George Kliavkoff helped calm things down. But this seismic shift in the CFB landscape and not wanting to get left behind could be all that’s needed for USC to want to make sure their future is secure. If I had to place a bet today, my money would be on the B1G countering the SEC by brining in the best brands from the PAC.
      Start listening from the 6:20 mark

      • MDUte

        If the B1G raids the PAC, our only hope is they expand to a 22 or 24 team conference. We aren’t included if it’s a 20 team conference unfortunately. I don’t see a scenario where Utah is selected before the following brands: USC, Oregon, Washington, Stanford, UCLA, Colorado, Arizona State. We should be ahead of WSU and OSU, not sure if it’s 6’s between us and Arizona.

        • Kirk Herbstreet
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          We are in over ASU. They are not AAU. That is a deal breaker for the BIG 10.

          • UteFanatic

            This is correct. Big10 is only interested in AAU member schools.

          • MDUte

            Great catch. Didn’t realize ASU wasn’t AAU. Which other PAC schools are not AAU?

            • Kirk Herbstreet
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              ASU, WSU and OSU. Everyone else is AAU.

            • MDUte

              Just looked it up. ASU, WSU, and OSU are the 3 PAC schools not AAU accredited. That still puts us at either 8th or 9th depending on if Arizona is placed before us or after. I would think if the B1G were expanding West and it included the Northern PAC and Colorado, Utah would be included over Arizona from a geographical standpoint. But they’d have to expand to 22 teams. At 20 we still don’t get in IMO.

              • MDUte
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                Sounds like Jim Delaney would’ve been the guy bold enough to counter the SEC and raid the PAC. The dream scenario would be the B1G takes the 9 AAU schools in the PAC + Kansas to get to 24. Not going to happen but if dominos fall out West, that would be our best shot at keeping a seat at the table.

  • dystopiamembrane
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    Washington State game times

    Hi, folks. Anyone in the know able to relay to me the possible game times for our contest on Sep 25? Thanks in advance.

  • Duhwayne
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    I think the possible times are 9 AM, 10 AM, 12 AM, 2 PM, 4 PM, 5 Pm and 7 or 8 PM. Sorry that’s the best I’ve got.

  • The “possible” games times are anytime throughout the day and probably won’t be known until 6 days before the game. Thank Larry Scott for the great deal he made with ESPN to hold 12 schools hostage until they decided which game they would like to showcase that week. Depending on how the game is prioritized with the rest of the league it could get anywhere from a 9am start to the late Pac-12 Network start.

    Pac-12 Schedule

    • From the Pac-12.com Website

      While television selections for the first few weeks of the 2021 season have been made, as well as all Thursday and Friday games throughout the season, all remaining television game selections and start times, starting with week four (Sat., Sept. 25) and running through the final week of the regular season (Fri., Nov. 26 – Sat., Nov. 27) will be made 12- or six-days in advance.

    • GibUtes

      With those matchups, I’d say that the most likely top picks by the broadcasters would be uo/ariz (slaughter, but they gots to get more Nike commercials on air), utah/wassu (best overall matchup), Stanford/UCLA(not a great game, but two important tv markets), uw/cal (best north game), colo/asu (best south game), USC/osu (screw the Trojans)

      • I highly doubt that Utah / WSU is considered best overall matchup, even if there aren’t any standout games. If you just used the projected win totals from the Vegas Insider:

        1. ASU (10) v Colorado (5)
        2. UW (8) v Cal (6)
        3. USC (9) v Oregon State (4)
        4. Utah (8) v WSU (5)
        5. Oregon (10) v Arizona (2)
        6. UCLA (6) v Stanford (5)

  • Daedalus17
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    Will the SEC replace the NCAA

    A saw a rumor that the SEC is in contact with Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, and Florida State.

    If this happened they would just be the first dominos to starting an entirely new league.

    Maybe every conference collapses and the entire landscape is redrawn.

    Pure speculation at this point.

  • MDUte
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    Wouldn’t be surprised if this is true. I think the B1G would be wise to protect their turf by forming an alliance with the PAC. Everything could consolidate to 2 leagues: SEC and B1G, basically the semi-pro NFL version of the NFC and AFC.

    • Daedalus17
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      I think that if Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, and Florida State agreed then there is only one other option to all other teams. Every team in every conference will want to be included so they are not left behind.

      Pretend Ohio state, Michigan, Clemson, Florida State join. They won’t stop there.

      You know USC, Washington, Oregon would join that if they were invited.

      The only question remaining is how many more they invite in the remaining restructuring after all conferences have collapsed.

  • AlohaUte
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    Honestly at that point and after USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington also join, I’m fine reorganizing the rest of S
    CFB to being what CFB should be. Let those schools go be semi pro and and the rest of us tell them to pound sand if they want to play ooc games. There are enough markets and viewers of the schools left out that there would still gobs of money to be made.

    I know I wouldn’t watch a second of the super league. Not a single second. And the rest of us shouldn’t either.

    • Daedalus17
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      If their goal is to form a new new league, then i don’t think they stop at the premier teams. That is just the first step to get the conferences to crumble.

      The real question is how many teams do they pick for their new league.

      I think 64 is a nice round number that could make nice divisions.

      • That number would be closer to 30 tops. Just like the NFL.

  • dystopiamembrane
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    I am excited for the future!

  • Daedalus17
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    We have been hearing for a long time that the power 5 might break away from the NCAA. I think that is what is happening now.
    It think that part of breaking away from the NCAA is destroying. This article explains why. With the NCAA losing power it becomes the conference that regulates. With all conferences acting independently it’s a race to the bottom.
    With the fall of the NCAA the conferences have to fall too.
    The power 5 needs to form a United single conference.

    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/with-the-ncaas-authority-quickly-eroding-significant-change-is-ahead-for-major-college-sports/

  • Duhwayne
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    It won’t be all the P5. It will be half of it and we won’t be inside.

    • Trailgoat

      Agree. Would not be surprised to hear at some point that USC, OU, UCLA, UW, Stanford, and maybe Cal have been at the table during these discussions. Hard to conceptualize how programs on the West Coast are going to logistically make it work. If the money is right, a couple extra hours on a plane traveling to and from the MidWest or South won’t be that big of a deal. Interesting times ahead for college football. 

    • It all depends on the number and who is driving the bus. If it’s the 64 that people are throwing out (4 @ 16 team conferences) Utah probably makes the cut. If it’s the 24 to 32 team SEC driven super league, there’s a very good chance Utah gets left out.

      A true national super league is actually an interesting thought exercise because it depends on whether you prioritize market size, recent success, perceived status or traditional relationships. 32 teams, 4 divisions (North, South, East, West) could look something like this:

      East: Miami, Florida, Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina, Maryland, Virginia, Syracuse
      South: Alabama, Auburn, Louisiana State, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Kentucky
      North: Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Iowa, Nebraska, Penn State, Louisville
      West: USC, Washington, Oregon, Colorado, Arizona State, Stanford, UNLV, Utah

      7 games against your division, one game against each other division based on previous year record (i.e. West #5 would play other #5’s). 8 team playoff featuring top two in each division. More money, less games, any school in the club gets the best recruits because why would a 4/5 star go anywhere but the top 32 teams.

  • UTE98
    13

    I like this statement from our new Pac-12 commissioner.

    Found this article when looking at the ESPN article. About the Pac12 would listen if others came calling.

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/07/23/new-pac-12-commissioner-george-kliavkoff-talks-realignment-if-the-big-12-folds-cfp-expansion-media-strategy-in-wide-ranging-interview/

    Love this statement from Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff.

    *** The future location of Pac-12 office:

    “It’s an expensive office space, and the world is changing. I’m not predisposed to a notion of how much square footage we need or where we need to be.

    “But every dollar we make is a dollar that can be distributed to the schools. Any amount we can save at the conference level, without sacrificing the integrity of our operation, I plan to save. And I can tell you this: Wherever we are, we won’t be paying the same rate.”