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byu – Sat 11/24 8pm – FS1
Excellent. These will look great in Sunday’s headlines about 8 in a row.
Adding the stripes just ties it in with everything else. Love it. Should be a permanent fixture on the helmets. I also want them to wear the Swoop wing helmets for the Championship game.
IF there is a Rose Bowl you have to wear the DNF.
IF we go to the Rose Bowl I’d like to see a Rose incorporated into the DnF somehow:
I like a subtle red sticker on the back. Or maybe a black stencil of a Rose just over the red. EDIT:OR if you have seen the Tribal stenciling of the U logo just fill it in with metallic rose stencils.
I would probably buy a million of those hats.
So I own this hat do it with the Rose Bowl logo instead of the Tribal pattern. For the helmets just fill it in with the same metallic reflective Rose pattern.
the exploding canister of muster gas is a nice touch
“I love the smell of napalm in the morning!”
Amazing. This is Utah Football.
However, they are on our schedule this Saturday and nothing will change that.
So, we should prepare for this game the best we possibly can. We should NOT overlook this game to prepare for the following week. That would be the definition of a trap game. I hope the coaches and playere are 100% invested in this week’s game. We should give it our all, get a good lead and then rest key players. Playing well and winning this week will give us confidence going into December 1st.
Go Utes!!!
Yeah but I am fan so I can bitch and moan. Other than wiping my ass after I poop I don’t need to prepare for nothing on Saturday.
I will play my best. And buy stuff to make nachos so that I am prepared. Thank’s for the talk, coach.
Whitt yesterday was asked the question if they are already looking forward and preparing for the championship game. He gave an emphatic “NO”, saying they are 100% focused on BYU right now.
Maybe he is from what I understood they were working on the Washington game install with Weber and NIU.
Actually he said that they were 100% focused on “the next opponent.” He never mentions BYU. He always says “them,” “those guys,” or the next opponent. Funny since he’s an alumnus.
He is mad at them and for good reason.
They want to further their careers. And they only have 12 games a year to create film for NFL scouts to look at and evaluate.
It is completely unfair to them to ask them to sit out a game, where they could rack up their stats and give themselves a better shot at playing in the NFL.
Completely agree, I believe Hans made this point on Twitter on Saturday with regards to the Hansen ejection. Also, given that it’s senior day on top of everything, are you really going to sit a senior who would normally start the game? A game that no-doubt a lot of his family is in attendance for?
This is simply not true. They are getting 2 extra games by winning the South and a Bowl game.
Let the boys play. Would you really want to tell a senior playing his last game at RES that he is going to sit?? maybe after we get a comfortable lead then sit them down. They want to play!!!!!
I would rather tell them that rather than “sorry you got hurt playing a horrible team that didn’t matter and won’t play in the Conference Championship and Rose Bowl”.
Yep, when was the last time we had a 14 game season?
ETA: Never. We’ve never played 14 games.
I am advocate for playing the starters. I think Shelly and Shyne need all the reps they can get, this is a good game for them to get ready for next week. Plus, I look forward to seeing what else Shelly can do.
Shelley and Shyne have looked just fine in the games they’ve played. Reps against an inferior oppenent won’t improve anything other than maybe giving them a false sense of well-being.
What’s wrong with publicly saying we’re going to rest all our starters and let BYU get their hopes up?
In the meantime, it’s business as usual at practice. That way we all get to laugh when we see BYU’s coaches, fans and players turn pale as our starters take the field on Saturday. Psych!
You’re devious. I like it.
I have a better idea. Announce that we will play our 2nd string. Then actually start our 3rd string and still kick their butts.
#JustARegularRivalryGame
I am as excited as any that we will be playing in the conference championship game in two weeks, but I am really surprised at all the complaints concerning this game and whether or not the starters should play. Does everyone serious not realize how PERFECTLY this has all set up? Consider these points:
1. Having sheduled this game at the end of the season allowed us to wrap up the division a week early, giving us a full extra week with the knowledge that we are champions and putting us in the right mindset to prepare. Our North division counterpart will not have that! The hangover could be deadly for them.
2. The fact that we play an unimportant game at the end of the year ALLOWS us to rest our starters. That wouldn’t even be an option if we ended with a conference game!
3. This game doesn’t matter, and that is fantastic! I believe we can beat BYU doing what we have done all year, meaning we just gained extra time to prepare for the championship. We put Kyle in a bowl game prep scenario, and we all know how effective he is with those! Shelley and Shyne will get much needed experience and can take some risks and better identify their strengths and limits.
4. The Washington teams will be required to give it their very best and lay all their cards on the table to come out victorious. We will have excellent film on them. We are not in the same situation. We could install all sorts of new wrinkles. Troy Taylor could even throw out some new twists in the BYU game that would be risky under different circumstances, but will cause the Apple Cup winner to have to game plan for those looks.
In summary, Chris Hill made this work beautifully! He set the Utes up not just to play in a conference championship in a difficult schedule year, but to actually have several advantages! The starters will play as much as they need to play to keep them sharp, and not a minute more. Can you ask for a better setup than that?
I hate them. When we play them, we help them. I don’t want to help them.
I think this is more the reason for all the debate this week. If we were playing any other 6-5 G5 school, we’d all be so happy for the scrimmage before the title game.
It’s not the game, it’s who the game is against.
DING DING! CORRECT ANSWER!
The best, most righeous way to rest the first string…Utah bolts out to a commanding lead early. The second and third string get to experience this nasty “rivalry” game first hand. I say the Utes need to do that to address the question at hand.
It is disappointing to have so many whine on about playing BYU, and playing them at this time of year. This time of year is when the Utes always played BYU. So why not now? And the game is on the schedule, like it or not. The SEC has similarly scheduled games, going into their conference championship game. Why not Utah? I mean the local interest is huge.
BYU has played three Pac-12 teams already and beaten one of them. They probably think they are already in the Pac-12 given that Utah will be fourth Pac-12 team they will meet this season. And they played and beat Wisconsin. So this Cougar team is used to playing P5 programs, and in two cases this year, they prevailed.
Why go on and on about talent disparity? Utah still cannot get the best players in the state to commit to Utah. Not all of them anyway. And BYU has players on the rooster that Utah would love to have and missed out on. Freshman QB Wilson is a case in point. That kid was a Utah fan his entire life. Do you think he is just going to rollover on Saturday evening? I don’t.
We should expect nothing less than a competitive game this weekend. BYU has more to prove than Utah and the sheer volume of bulletin board material Utah fans have provided Sitake is amazing. I mean, BYU’s coaching staff burned up three inkjet printers and ran OfficeMax out of ink cartridges printing it all up. This game is likely to be a slug fest, at least for 2-1/2 to 3 quarters. My fear is that Harline is still open.
Needless to say, I’m looking forward to it. And I really hope the players don’t suffer from what us fans have this week, and come out to play big-time football. You never know what recruit may have his head turned toward Utah with a commanding win.
Well it is a home game that turned into a late night game for TV and the weather is terrible. I am weighing pros and cons of it all. You can’t really try fancy little tricks in s**tty cold weather. Apple Cup winner gets to rest and have an extra day of practice and recovery. Utah won’t get done until late.
I really hope TT is scheming for Washington or Wazzu and basically treating this like a scrimmage for either team.
Playing TDS is bad because they are turning into a B but play you like an A. Same as NIU tough road game and they don’t even travel here. Hill did a s**t job with this schedule. All OOC should be first of the year full stop.
From what I understand this wasn’t just a Hill thing. The conference kind of forced the issue. Maybe I’m wrong here??
Yeah the time was so ND could play USC or some s**t.
Hill didn’t have a damn thing to do with this other than filling a hole in the schedule created by the Pac-12.
Yeah as a “favor” to the morons on the Hill and the PAC12 look how they rewarded us with scheduling. Give us two back to back roadies, so polite of them. Given us even worse officiating.
Shelly is a redshirt freshman with 2 1/4 games under his belt. Although he hasn’t played like a freshman, getting an additional 3 or 4 quarters experience is valuable.
Whitt is right, you have a stable full of thoroughbreds, let them run. They put in too much time in the weight room and in practice to shut them down for one of their 6 home games.
We don’t have a full stable at QB – that’s for damn sure.
The majority of Ute fans love the rivalry game, me included. There is a smaller, but more vocal minority that dominates the message boards and twitter feeds which makes it seem like all Ute fans don’t want to play the game.
However, the rivalry game is one of college footballs best traditions and seeing it go away would be a damn shame.
What i’ve vehemently disagreed with is Hill’s A,B,C model and considering BYU our “A” non conference game. BYU needs to be considered our “B” game every year.
I hope WSU wins too! Then gives the Utes the Arizona treatment! In all seriousness, should WSU trip up in the Apple Cup which they do all the time. I’ll be a temporary big Ute fan when you play the Pooches.
are you a WSU Cougar or another kind?
Until Leach beats UW I have to go with the Huskies. Those past few Apple Cups haven’t even been close.
sweetgrass,
A WSU Cougar here! From the university first to adopt the mascot….1919, the other two were latecomers and thus rank impostors 🙂 (BYU in 1923 and University of Houston in 1927). But yes UW has always had the edge in the Apple Cup. Just hoping my Cougs can finally beat the Dawgs badly when there is so much on the line.
The ranking of the team we play doesn’t matter. We’re not getting to the playoffs either way. If we win, we go to the Rose bowl, so I’d rather play the team we match up the best against.
I’d rather play UW. We match up better with them, and their fans make me want revenge on them worse than WSU.
The thing with WSU is we didn’t have that much film on Minshew. Now that we do, I think we could do pretty well against him. Especially since our defense is healthy. I like our chances with UW, but they have a much better rush defense, and while Shyne is great, Moss was at another level. Plus Gaskin is a tough match up. I dunno, either team is tough, but I think Wazzu is who I want at this point.
I agree, definitely hoping for WSU even though it is likely a worse match up for us.
I just don’t want there to be any chance that Washington comes away with a title. The favortism in the PAC is unreal, and it would give me no greater pleasure than to force them to crown a new champion while their “preferred” teams watch from home.
I like our chances against either team. We are a much different team since we played either of them.
And the Cougars are a much different team since you played them before too. Better hope WSU doesn’t jump up big on Utah early, could be a very steep hill for the Utes to climb.
But all in fun, I think should the WSU/Utah rematch happen it can’t fail but to be an interesting entertaining game.
Given the officiating in this conference, it is quite possible that NEITHER of our first string defenses will even be allowed to play. Let’s just hope all the targeting calls happen in the 1st half for both our teams this week. 🙂
Seriously, FIRE LARRY SCOTT!
Can you give us a weather update for Saturday? Looks like snow Thursday and Friday into Saturday.
They play in a massive stadium in a market we recruit. We have a lot in common with them. Harlan is from that area. They’re dying for a P5 game. Home and home. Git r done Mark!
Buy out next year zoob game at their erector set stadium. Get a home game with UCF instead. Return game a year or two down the road. Danny White is their AD. This should be workable.
We played NIU FFS.
It would be great tv! We could get broadcast partner to pay off the zoobs like the two-dollar handjobs they are.
I’m hoping our future schedules look more like this:
8 conference games, 1 p5 game, 1 in-state game (cycle between BYU-P, USU, WSU, SUU), 2 g5 games
Any FCS not named Southern Utah or Weber is not welcome.
We need high profile eastern and central time zone games. We need big teams to come to us. When we had aTm and Michigan, it was heaven. We need that yearly. Play Miami for “The U.” Stuff like that. Winning is primary, but winning with exposure is necessary.
Definitely
And any team we play that is not p5 should be on a 2-for-1 deal.
I don’t think we’re there yet.
I’m not sure anyone is there anymore. It’s too expensive to do a 2 for 1. A lot of P5 schools are going back to a H/H deal. Didn’t Miami just play in Wyoming?
90% of the G5 opponents should be from Florida or Texas. USU once in a while. TDS never.
I would much rather help USU with games, H’nH, than ever play the zoobs again.
USU H and H isn’t too bad as there is such a low travel cost. Honestly, I would rather even do what WSU used to do with Idaho and let the ‘home game’ be held in RES or something for USU and split gate with them or whatever.
Yeah, once every four years was my compromise, but I’d be cool with dropping them completely.
Ideally that would be great, away games in recruiting areas. Obviously the Texas and Fl teams want to play games in their alternate recruiting areas too. Scheduling them becomes problematic. It takes two to tango
You think they don’t want access to Utah HS recruiting? Alabama, Texas, Florida, USC, Ohio State all come here to recruit. When we get our bigger stadium we will be able to draw some of these teams. It will be glorious!
We will always play an FCS team because the schedules are too tough.
If you are Whitt, you have two options: play an FCS team and have a healthier team and a better shot at winning in November
or
Play a tougher schedule and have fans p**sed at you for not winning more games.
Look at USC this year. Tough schedules get you nowhere. Schedule down.
Fans want things in this order:
1 – Tough schedules AS LONG AS YOU ARE BEATING THE TOUGH TEAMS. If you play a tough schedule but lose, fans hate you.
2 – Easy schedules and wins.
The good news is, the playoff committee agrees with fans. If you win but have an easy schedule, you are in.
So, do #2.
We played Weber, NIU and BYU this year. How much easier can it get and still be football?
UCF will eventually get into one of the power 5 conferences, might as well get some games against the Knights before they get accustomed to playing a slate of tougher teams.
Our non conference away games should be in Fla. Texas Cal. and Hawaii for Recruiting
Some friends can’t handle the cold weather and don’t feel like joining me at the game this weekend. I’m selling 2 of my tickets in the NEZ (N25,R22,S36-37) for $50 each.
Can meet up in SLC tomorrow, or before the game on Saturday.
Dang…wish I would have seen this before buying mine in the visitors section.
I have a friend who wants them – I’ll bm you
I just replied to your DM.
Unfortunately, they are in the visitors section…Hoping the Utes open an early lead so I don’t have to hear from the BYU fans at all.
I just hope they keep the pedal to the metal when they get that early lead.
If he were to go down and not be available for the Conference Championship – that would be horrible. Frankly, there are others I would sit out as well. We just don’t need to risk it and we don’t need them to win.
Seems like a no-brainer.
100% agree. No starter should play that game. Any injuries in a meaningless non-conference game could significantly hurt our chances in a very meaningful conference championship game. Even beyond injuries, but personal fouls and/or targeting, especially in the second half, could have serious repercussions. e.g. Imagine losing Chase Hansen for the first half of the CCG game because of a phantom targeting call against BYU.
I agree with this completely, but it seems to be an unpopular opinion around here.
Don’t know if it’s unpopular, it’s just not happening. Whitt said he’s not resting the starters, so there’s really nothing else to discuss.
Listening closely I heard Kyle answer a question with a question.
I heard from someone,(yeah I know sister in law’s boyfriend’s barber), not to be surprised if some starters rested this game.
A compromise might be let senior start and play a series or the 1st quarter. Tell them that for the team’s good, they need to get it done in a small amount of time if they want to make a statement this game.
The elephant in the room is that this game should NEVER HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED!
I agree and disagree. On one hand, it’s dumb to risk injury. On the other hand, you’re dealing with a bunch of competitive kids who WANT to play. Like Kyle said yesterday, how are you going to tell your guys they won’t be playing? Hopefully we can just get a big lead and sit players in the 2nd half.
He needs live game practice, sitting him would be foolish.
I see both sides but also if the kids want to play it is their bodies. Also telling kids NOT to do something usually has unintentional and unpredictable consequences.
Once there is a 5 touchdown lead in the first quarter, we will bench him.
(Vegas Bowl Precedence.)
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