Thank God the PAC 12 invited Utah to join the conference.

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- 12/27/2017 at 8:26 PM #52371
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  RedUte
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  otherwise they would have no bowl wins so far this season. Arizona looks stupid against Purdue
- 12/27/2017 at 8:34 PM #52375
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  ladyinred
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  I’m sure a few other pac 12 teams will flame out this bowl season as well, and the pundits will all be justified in their pac 12 is weak commentary. Smh.
  - 12/27/2017 at 8:51 PM #52378
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    The P12 commentary is accurate, though. Bowl games act as a good measure of conference strength relative to other conferences, and the P12 always seems to fizzle out this time of year. I could see OSU taking USC to the woodshed, too.
    - 12/27/2017 at 9:41 PM #52381
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      noneyadb
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      Anything other than the top ny6 games are useless and far from good indicators of a conferences strength.
      - 12/27/2017 at 9:49 PM #52383
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        Disagree because it’s like this every year for the P12. And on the rare occasion a P12 team makes it to a playoff/championship game, they lose, and generally lose big (a la Washington last year). USC did beat Penn State last year in the Rose Bowl, and was a good win, but it seems like that is a rare event for the P12.
        
        12/28/2017 at 8:20 PM #52419
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        noneyadb
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        With all the recent coaching changes, and key players sitting out to prepare for NFL draft rather than play some lower/mid-tier bowl game, what honest conclusion can you gain? Oregon is a different team without Freeman and Coach Taggert. UCLA without Rosen and Coach Mora…
        
        12/28/2017 at 9:37 PM #52422
        
        noneyadb
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        Washington wasn’t even the best team in the pac12 last year, and Colorado was overrated. Stanford clobbered Iowa year before…
- 12/28/2017 at 8:52 PM #52420
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  SkinyUte
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  Problem isn’t just the post-season. The P12 typically tends to flame out in any big early season OOC games as well (or loses to FCS schools), which – when combined with the poor bowl showing – is just more fodder for the “weak conference” argument.
  
  (Side note, why isn’t Falk playing for Wazzu tonight?)