this ought to end well for Spicer et al


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      Utah
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      @utah

      I love how “snowflake” has become the right’s biggest insult…yet, arguably the biggest “snowflake” in the country is the man they elected president. 

      Someday, hopefully, we will learn that we are all the same. Left vs right…that’s not what is really happening. It is top vs bottom. 

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      Anonymous
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      It is top vs bottom and the top is trying to squeeze everything they possibly can out of the bottom without causing armed anarchy

      • #25859

        Utah
        Ute Fan
        @utah

        Yup. The right has elected former democrat Donald Trump as their president and savior.

        The irony is so rich. If that doesn’t scream/show how it isn’t right vs left, but top vs bottom, then nothing will. 

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          yeah, I don’t think it bodes well for poor people that bought his song and dance.  he did a masterful job of rallying them and playing them.  Sadly they won’t realize it until after he tries to gut the Johnson Amendment, guts Dodd Frank and the EPA.  By the time they figure it out the damage will be done.

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            Utah
            Ute Fan
            @utah

            What this country needs is someone to unite people. To somehow show people that your average democrat and your average republican and your average independent/libertarian/whatever…on most issues we are the same. 

            We want clean rivers. We want to hunt and fish. We want a good healthcare and educational system. We want to pay taxes, but want them to be more fair across the board and lower for those who are lower in income (for example, I doubt anyone who pays 30% of his income in federal taxes would complain if the Romney’s and Trump’s and Buffett’s had to pay 30% as well, instead of the 15% and lower they are paying). We want our prisons to have less people, but we want the people who deserve to be there to be there. We want to get help to the mentally ill and homeless. 

            We can find middle grounds in all of these. We need to quit with this silly “all right or nothing” or “all left of nothing” stances our politicians have taken. 

            There is middle ground to everything and when we reach that middle ground, we all do better. 

            I’m just not sure, even if we had someone to unite us, if we would even listen, because that person wouldn’t be endorsed by Beck or Hannity or Olberman or whoever is the mouthpiece for the left. It’s too bad. 

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              Puget Ute
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              What people often fail to recognize is the fact that the poorer people at the bottom of the spectrum pay a huge tax in the form of low wages. In the richest country in the history of the world, which is currently at it all-time wealthiest, the bottom ~50% of wage earners have not seen a wage increase beyond the level of inflation since before Reagan was elected. And on top of that the cost of housing, education, healthcare, etc., have greatly outpaced inflation and will continue to do so. The rise of housing costs over the last 15+ years is directly related to the Bush tax cuts, and to Obama’s indefinite extension of those cuts, and will continue to price people out of the market.

              Perhaps it is telling to recognize that a minimum wage tied inflation over the last 50+ years would now be well over $15/hr, and a minimum wage tied to actual worker productivity over that same time frame would be ~$23.50/hr. And as we transition to an economy where robots and computers will do much of the work we will be left with tens of millions of people who can’t get decent jobs.

              At that point the Snowflakes will become a Blizzard. Winter is Coming.

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                Riot West
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                eat the rich

              • #25880
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                Utah
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                @utah

                So much truth here. 

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      Anonymous
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      John Huntsman Jr is the statesman that COULD unite people but sadly you are correct, the talking heads will never endorse him.

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