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” just didn’t love that we started a thread about how TSPP is “breaking their own rules”

BYU fans trash LDS Ute fans all the time. When BYU “breaks their own rules” it is utter hypocrisy when their fans support it.

HC being the “closer” is exactly why Whitt should retire. Let Scalley be the closer with a new direction and energy. Ludwig resigning and disgruntled players are a crack in the armor of the culture that has been our best recruiting tool. Scalley is the coach in waiting to continue the culture Whitt has built (which in my opinion is his gre…[Read more]

If the games we were losing were a bunch of unfamiliar matchups, I would agree. We are 1-1 in our games against “new” opponents. We have lost 2 games to former pac teams. This has nothing to do with unfamiliar matchups.

Fetching fetchers.

I don’t think this thread would’ve been started if it wasn’t BYU but this sort of thing still has fans of college sports feeling very unsure. I also don’t think that’s out of line, I have doubts surrounding how conducive to competitive sports the NIL is in its current state.

Other than the coaches themselves and the product on the field disagreeing with you? No. I think that pretty well shuts the book on the matter.

Brilliant. Thank you!

Will try the last 4 of your phone (helps to read the entire post, ;).

Pay for play? I’d love it if Cam were paid NIL money for playing the past two seasons. I said it last year and got lambasted. JJ contributed more to Utah’s success last year than Rising, which is an easy claim when Rising never played but collected NIL. I was told Cam’s potential was why he was getting paid and he’d make more difference. Well I…[Read more]

Tony, tried to do the Venmo link and wouldn’t complete the transaction for me. Let me know if you have another avenue. You can DM me.

Had a few solid donations yesterday! We are past 50% now at $1384.24 of the $2500.00 goal. Many thanks. Still quite a ways to go so if you can, donate. Even a couple of bucks. No donation is too small (or too big).

There’s nothing corny about that concept. People do similar things is many different professions and walks in life. Whitt stays in the job as long as he enjoys it and feels that he’s bringing positivity to people’s lives. I don’t know him, but he doesn’t strike me as a guy who would lie to himself for the purpose of staying on the job.

“Paying to play would imply players are allowed to play at BYU for money reasons when they wouldn’t otherwise be eligible.

I would say:

Paying to play would imply players choose to play at BYU for money reasons when they wouldn’t otherwise choose to play at BYU.

No way that guy chooses BYU if not for the NIL money.

Yes its pay to play.

One reason he may stay that I don’t hear anyone mentioning, is that he may get great satisfaction from being a mentor to these young men and helping to shape a positive future for them. Sounds corny, but there’s probably something to it.

Seems to me byu donors are tying to get this guy to come to byu to play. They are offering up to $4.5 million. I have a hard time thinking this isn’t some form of “pay to play”.

Multiple sources tell @On3sports that No. 1 recruit AJ Dybantsa is expected to land an NIL package north of $3M and could get as high as $4M.

A source close to BYU said, “4 to $4.5 million is what they are prepared to pay.”

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— Pete Nakos (@PeteNakos_) October 22, 2024

I think there is a difference between “pay to play” and “pay for play.” Ryan Smith and the collectives are paying the players for play. Paying to play would imply players are allowed to play at BYU for money reasons when they wouldn’t otherwise be eligible.

There is, but how much money do you actually need? Maybe Saban is itching to coach again, but it will be the same issues he faced at Bama in terms of dealing with NIL etc. If I had to guess, he’ll remain doing what he is now while working in an advisory role for Bama. He’ll get his statue and enjoy the remaining years he has left.

Those are good points. I would go further and add that, unless things go in a positive manner, that advisory role might not be there.

What I mean by that is this: if Whitt holds on to the job while providing diminishing returns, and forces Utah’s hand, it’s hard to see any plausible scenario where he’s kept on as an advisor.