Time for ESPN & College Football to do something…

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- 12/28/2021 at 4:40 PM #162982
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  AZUteFan
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  After what happened with the Holiday Bowl cancelling hours before kickoff, it is time for college football/ESPN to step up to the plate and do something to give assurances to the fans and players that the remaining bowl games are going to happen and that testing is only required for non-vaccinated players/coaches/fans. There should be NO requirement to test fully vaccinated players. And there needs to be some tranparency behind this whole process. Seems like each school does whatever the crap they feel like when it comes to testing/covid protocols. There are much bigger risks of playing football that we choose to ignore for our entertainment, yet we have decided to get so hung up on a positive covid test that the world shuts down, even if the individual is asymptomatic.
  
  There is too much time/money/resources that go in to putting on these bowl games to have it get shut down for a couple of positive covid tests. The cancellations that happened last year to college and pro sports were understandable with lack of vaccines. But for 2 years later and the majority of the players, coaches, and fans are vaccinated, it’s time to move forward with real life and stop with the nonsense.
  
  It’s insane to expect hundreds of thousands of fans to travel to these bowl sites and invest all the time and money to get out there while wondering if the game is called off over a cough and runny nose.
- 12/28/2021 at 5:01 PM #162985
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  Duhwayne
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  This is New York’s new cases. 90 percent of Manhattan has had at least one dose. PCR availability is very high relative to the population but the positivity rate is still around 10 percent. Right now there are neighborhoods on Manhattan with positive cases more than 2,000 per 100k. Kids are positive, girlfriend and kids are all positive. Grownups got our third shots last month. I’m waiting for my positive. The good news is for boosted people it’s a really nasty head cold. Energy is coming back in four days or so. Incubation also seems shorter. This might actually be good news in the waning arc of the pandemic. New case records almost each day of the last week within a population that is almost totally vaxxed. What was that about ESPN or NCAA assuring everyone that games will go on? I only think the game happens if they stop doing things like going to Disneyland. Fingers crossed though.
  - 12/28/2021 at 6:40 PM #163002
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    AlohaUte
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    Conveniently ignoring the fact that these 30K cases are largely little worse than the common cold. Why do we care about how many people get it if it is minor illness. We don’t cancel games because of the cold or the flu, so why are we over Omicron?
    - 12/28/2021 at 9:31 PM #163028
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      Duhwayne
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      Do you have it? It is a lot worse than a cold. Mind you the mild symptoms described are in people with three shots. We’ll find out the next two weeks how it affects the unvaxxed. Too early to say yet but hospitalization is likely to be lower. Also, the buffet has salmonella but people aren’t going to die so why are we over it?
      - 12/28/2021 at 10:46 PM #163033
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        AlohaUte
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        I had regular or Delta variant back in September, it was like the flu. I think my son has Omicron right now. It’s just like a bad cold.
        
        Nevertheless, according to reports, regardless of your experience or my son’s experience with it, Omicron is generally just cold symptoms. Some people will have it worse, some people won’t even know they have it.
- 12/28/2021 at 5:30 PM #162990
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  dystopiamembrane
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  Someone’s got to take a stand.
  - 12/28/2021 at 5:40 PM #162992
    
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  - 12/28/2021 at 6:57 PM #163005
    
    highlandute7
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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bqjK6jjt6gk
- 12/28/2021 at 7:07 PM #163006
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  JnJ, Moderna and Pfizer will want us to have a port of the vaccine going steadily into our bloodstream. That way we can be sure that everyone is vaccinated at all times.
  - 12/28/2021 at 8:51 PM #163019
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    prestitute
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    Are you like this about other vaccines, too? Polio, chicken pox, MMR?
    - 12/28/2021 at 9:18 PM #163023
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      My body doesn’t agree with vaccines. But I have had several in my lifetime with varying side effects.
      I wouldn’t mind at all if after the sixth or seventh booster a person consulting with their doctor got a port of the vaccine.
      I also wouldn’t mind at all if after consulting with their doctor they were advised to not get this vaccine at all.
    - 12/29/2021 at 7:11 AM #163040
      
      dystopiamembrane
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      I am.
- 12/28/2021 at 9:15 PM #163022
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  Crow
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  You can still get covid even if fully vaccinated
  - 12/29/2021 at 12:54 PM #163103
    
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    True, but think of it like this. Imagine you’ve been stabbed, if you’re unvaccinated you’ve got no protection, you might live, you might have permanent injuries, you might die, depending on how hard you’re hit and where…
    
    But vaccinated are wearing chainmail. The chances of serious injury and death drop to near 0.
    
    Half this board will scream that the death rate is already near zero and sure, that .5% – 1% death rate for covid looks small, but vaccinated death rates are like 1/10000 to 1/100000 comparitively.
    
    I saw an article the other day that almost 20k people had adverse reactions to the vaccine, that happens, people are allergic to all kinds of s**t. But over 700k have died to covid, in the US alone. At this point its just math. Get vaxxed, please.
    - 12/29/2021 at 3:39 PM #163118
      
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      Larger point is despite these overwhelmingly good numbers with the vaccine they are still making athletes quarantine and sit?
      
      If you are vaccinated you shouldn’t even need to be tested anymore. But if you are requiring tests…what if you have zero symptoms and nothing prevents you from playing?? Who cares about the positive test result. You are around people who are largely vaccinated or who choose to live their lives unvaccinated.
      
      The argument I am making is this is endemic no longer a pandemic. CDC relaxing things and shortening quarantine times is clearly pointing in that direction.
      - 12/29/2021 at 4:36 PM #163121
        
        UtemanUtefan
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        You’re probably right that the NCAA/collegiate boards should step in and denounce game-day testing for vaccinated players, I assume that is what’s causing so many last minute cancellations, especially when those that are vaxx+boosted aren’t being tested regularly unless someone they are in contact with tests positive (tracing) – There was a tweet by a jazz writer yesterday about this exact situation.
        
        But, like it or not, the government has to care about the lowest common denominator, which for now, is those who still refuse the vaccine or for whatever reason cannot take it. So if a vaccinated person can still spread the disease (which is highly likely considering what we’ve learned) then we still have to quarantine the latter away from the former. Or at least attempt to. Humans gonna Human.
        
        12/29/2021 at 5:32 PM #163125
        
        EagleMountainUte
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        The government doesn’t care.
        
        Also starting to see that arguement going around now:”We can’t open up or stop because those dirty anti vaxxers won’t get the vaccine.”