Jaylon Johnson #16


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      noneyadb
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      #16 — Jaylon Johnson, University of Utah

      The future first round draft pick can’t even crack the top 10 player in the state. LMAO. This list is absolute trash.

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      BattleGroundUte
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      @battlegroundute

      Won’t even dignify it with a click. Morons. 

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      Utah
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      @utah

      They had Troy Warner as a better safety than Ballard and Blair. They are idiots. 

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        noneyadb
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        @noneyadb

        I get Warner. Ballard wasn’t all Pac-12, and Blair only started a few games, right now I’d probably give Warner the edge as well, but they’re all ranked fairly close together 

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      Utah
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      @utah

      That being said, I think there are ten players more valuable to Utah this year than him. 

      And that’s awesome. 

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        Hammer
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        @hammer

        10 players more valuable than a shutdown corner, a great tackler, a corner who can fight off a block to blow up a play? Well, that’s one way of thinking.

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          Utah
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          @utah

          Yeah. Off the top of my head, Moss, Huntley, Barton, Fotu, Falemaka, Anae, Hansen, Blackmon, Covey are all more important to Utah’s win total. 

          So, 9. 

          NOW, that doesn’t mean he isn’t amazing. We are just stacked at that position. 

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      UteThunder
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      Where would you rank Jaylon on our own team? Because I’ll tell you, I barely have him in the top 10. Keep in mind he is a true sophomore coming off of a year end shoulder injury.

      Personally, I would put Jaylon behind the following Utes: (In no particular order) Huntley, Moss, Anae, Blackmon, Covey, Gay, Wishnowsky, Hansen, and Fotu. 

      Johnson might be a 1st round pick one day, but if they held the 2019 NFL draft today, he would be an undrafted free agent at best. 

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        chinngiskhaan
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        @chinngiskhaan

        BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA…

         

        undrafted?

         

         

        BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…

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          UteThunder
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          @utethunder

          Yes, undrafted. He started just TWO games for us last year and wasn’t even honorable mention All-Conference.

          But you’re probably right, a true sophomore who was mostly 2nd string for us last year would totally get drafted if the draft was held today.  

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        noneyadb
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        @noneyadb

        Johnson played all last season WITH the injured shoulder. By his measurements alone he’s an elite first-second round draft pick.

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        Hammer
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        @hammer

        Please explain why you would hav the better corne behind Blackmon?

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          ironman1315
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          @ironman1315

          He’s not.

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          UteThunder
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          @utethunder

          Johnson is the better corner? According to who?

          Blackmon = Started all 13 games last year, 2nd team All-conference, bowl game MVP, led the team in INTs, passes defended, and pass break-ups. Also had the 2nd most tackles out of all of our DBs.

          Johnson = Started only 2 games last year, no conference honors, tied for the team lead in pass break-ups(with Blackmon) and half as many tackles as Blackmon.

          By any objective measure, Blackmon is the better corner TODAY. As their careers play out, Johnson may end up being the better corner, but he has not proven to be better than Blackmon yet.

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            Hammer
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            @hammer

            Johnson’s athleticism is elite, period. End of story. Full stop.He had the 5th lowest passer rating when targeted of all the CB’s in the CONFERENCE, and that was as a freakin true freshman. He had the same amount of pass deflections as Julian Blackmon in 3 less games. I would argue less opportunities for picks because of less QB’s throwing his way. Teams at times last year completely avoided throwing the ball at Jaylon. Blackmon gave up two TD’s, Johnson zero.

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              UteThunder
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              @utethunder

              IIRC, Blackmon was routinely matched up with the opponent’s #1 WR while Johnson rarely, if ever, drew that duty. 

              I would argue the ball was thrown Johnson’s way fewer times because QBs will always look to their #1 guy first and it is easier for a CB to lockdown the #2 or worse guy than it is to lockdown the #1 guy.

              Also, according to the team website, Johnson played in all 12 regular season games so it would be 1 less game than Blackmon. Though, I seem to recall Johnson sitting out the Colorado game so maybe it was 2.  

              EDIT to address your edit: To say that Blackmon gave up 2 TDs while Johnson gave up zero as an argument that Johnson is better is questionable. First, because Blackmon was typically defending the better WR; second, because Blackmon played in more games and played more downs in every game, thus there were many more opportunities for him to eventually give up a TD. It’s inevitable that even the best CBs are going to give up TDs.

               

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                noneyadb
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                @noneyadb

                Before making false accusations go back and double check. Johnson was matched up with Pettis vs Washington, Henry vs ASU, and often opponents #1 WR, with an injured shoulder.

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                  UteThunder
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                  @utethunder

                  So you’re saying we routinely lined up an injured, 2nd string, freshman corner on our opponents’ #1 WR? Is that really your position?

                  I’m sure Johnson defended the top WR from time to time, in fact I remember him giving up a huge pass play to Pettis on the opening play of the UW game. But there is no way he was covering the #1 WR more often than Blackmon did. 

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                    Hammer
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                    @hammer

                    Your speculation isn’t fact and makes for a weak argument

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                      UteThunder
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                      @utethunder

                      Facts:

                      Johnson was 2nd string and received no post-season honors such as freshman All-American, All-Conference, etc.

                      More Facts:

                      Blackmon started all 13 games, was 2nd team All-Pac12 and the bowl game MVP. 

                      So, either our coaches are complete morons who started an inferior player(Blackmon) over a superior player(Johnson) . . . OR . . . Maybe, just maybe, I’m right here and Johnson has yet to prove he is better than Blackmon.

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      COFfrom83
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      @coffrom83

      what would expect from a station that airs kinehack? accurate and insightful sports reporting? HA! gimme a break.

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      ironman1315
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      @ironman1315

      I got like a buck that says Mangum comes in at or after #15.

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        Utah
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        @utah

        Oh jeez. I hope not. Wasn’t Marcus Williams’ last year, he was like 28 or something? 

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          ironman1315
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          @ironman1315

          Closer to 18! I checked the way back machine not in the top 10 or 15 but not lower than 25.

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            FtheY
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            @fthey

            Man. Saw a 15 in your post and thought we talking about sacks. Carry on.

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