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PorterRockwell replied to the topic So the bill isn't finished Herbert is concerned how the law will be applied in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
I agree that DUI needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I believe that first time offenders where there is no property damage or worse should get a second opportunity to redeem themselves and make correct decisions. I’e you had one too many rolled through a sobriety check point and got arrested.
We need to target the habitual…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic So the bill isn't finished Herbert is concerned how the law will be applied in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Interesting. Utah’s liquor laws are insane, but I think they will change in coming years pretty drastically. As the older generation of LDS politicians fades away, and SLC continues to shift left I think you’ll see these laws begin to fall. It’s unfortunate that the geezers seem hellbent on tightening things up as much as possible before they’re…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic So the bill isn't finished Herbert is concerned how the law will be applied in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Interesting. Utah’s liquor laws are insane, but I think they will change in coming years pretty drastically. As the older generation of LDS politician fades away, and SLC continues to shift left I think you’ll see these laws begin to fall. It’s unfortunate that the geezers seem hellbent on tightening things up as much as possible before they’re…[Read more]
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic So the bill isn't finished Herbert is concerned how the law will be applied in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
I don’t know if it will send skiers elsewhere or not. Colorado is already airing commercials about it and that was before it was signed. It will contribute to the perception that Utahn’s are weird despite Gary’s statements to the contrary.
Robert Gerhke wrote a column about ithttp://www.sltrib.com/home/5091510-155/gehrke-new-dui-standard-is-an
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AZswayze replied to the topic So the bill isn't finished Herbert is concerned how the law will be applied in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
I agree with your comment about opening a bar in Utah, but do you honestly think this particular law will hurt the ski industry? I’d guess that most people fly into SLC, and take shuttles or Ubers when getting around downtown at night. I really don’t think most folks who are coming into town to ski are looking at DUI laws and thinking they’d…[Read more]
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PorterRockwell started the topic So the bill isn't finished Herbert is concerned how the law will be applied in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
http://kutv.com/news/local/utah-governor-herbert-plans-to-sign-05-dui-bill-making-it-the-lowest-limit-in-the-nation
But he is going to sign it anyway?
And he is going to call a special session to fix it? Sounds like business as usual
I hope this law waves the one or two lives a year its projected to save in Utah. I hope it prevents property…[Read more] -
AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
He is terrifying. I’m not usually one to compare politicians to Hitler, but when I think about the type of person necessary to push those types of policy objectives and support a leader like Hitler, Miller basically is the prototype.
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
That is why I said this is so depressing. I’ve always accepted the fact that people will have differing political ideologies, and that my own deeply held beliefs may not be correct, but I always believed Americans (overall) were smart enough to see past the patent bullshit. We all know that money in politics is a huge problem and that most…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
That is why I said this is so depressing. I’ve always accepted the fact that people will have differing political ideologies, and that my own deeply held beliefs may not be correct, but I always believed Americans (overall) were smart enough to see past the patent bullshit. We all know that money in politics is a huge problem, and that most…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
That is why I said this is so depressing. I’ve always accepted the fact that people will have differing political ideologies, and that my own deeply held beliefs may not be correct, but I always believed Americans (overall) were smart enough to see past the bullshit. We all know that money in politics is a huge problem, and that most politicians…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
That is why I said this is so depressing. I’ve always accepted the fact that people will have differing political ideologies, and that mine own deeply held beliefs may not be correct, but I always believed Americans (overall) were smart enough to see past the bullshit. We all know that money in politics is a huge problem, and that most politicians…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
That is why I said this is so depressing. I’ve always accepted the fact that people will have differing political ideologies, and that mine own deeply held beliefs may not be correct, but I always believed Americans (overall) were smart enough to see past the bullshit. We all know that money in politics is a huge problem, and that most politicians…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
I previously read those articles (thanks r/impeachtrump). I don’t believe he’s clever enough to be practicing anything that takes any sort of grand planning. His bullying, manipulative tactics served his purpose in the business world, and I predicted he would try governing using the same tactics for that reason alone. The fact that he can’t see…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
I previously read those articles (thanks r/impeachtrump). I don’t believe he’s clever enough to be practicing anything that takes any sort of grand planning. His bullying, manipulative tactics served his purpose in the business world, and I predicted he would try governing using the same tactics for that reason alone. The fact that he can’t see…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
I previously read those articles (thanks r/impeachtrump). I don’t believe he’s clever enough to be practicing anything that takes any sort of planning. His bullying, manipulative tactics served his purpose in the business world, and I predicted he would try governing using the same tactics. The fact that he can’t see how it’s failing miserably,…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
I previously read those articles. I don’t believe he’s clever enough to be practicing anything that takes any sort of planning. His bullying, manipulative tactics served his purpose in the business world, and I predicted he would try governing using the same tactics. The fact that he can’t see how it’s failing miserably, and that he seems to…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
I previously read those articles. The behavior is learned, for sure, but I don’t believe he’s clever enough to be practicing anything that takes any sort of planning. His bullying, manipulative tactics served his purpose in the business world, and I predicted he would try governing using the same tactics. The fact that he can’t see how it’s…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
I previously read those articles. The behavior is learned, for sure, but I don’t believe he’s clever enough to be practicing anything that takes any sort of planning. His bullying, manipulative tactics served his purpose in the business world, and I predicted he would try governing using the same tactics. The fact that he can’t see how it’s…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
The behavior is learned, for sure, but I don’t believe he’s clever enough to be practicing anything that takes any sort of planning. His bullying, manipulative tactics served his purpose in the business world, and I predicted he would try governing using the same tactics. The fact that he can’t see how it’s failing miserably, and that he seems to…[Read more]
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AZswayze replied to the topic Sounds like there is some good news and some bad news for board liberals. in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Yeah, I didn’t mean the population that is able to vote. I meant the percentage of people who showed up to vote (46% voted for Trump). Sorry for the confusion.
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