IrishUte
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Jim Vanderhoof
ParticipantBy Whitts own admission they didn’t adjust the schemes with a much bigger turnover of players. The offense and defense were complicated and took time to learn. Having 4-5 years to groom players it worked. Player development was the coaches calling card.
The NIL Portal era has changed that philosophy. Freshman and transfers need to be ready immediately to play. Defense hasn’t seemed to be as affected as the offense. When a coach makes a comment that a third year QB (rose) hadn’t grasp the offense and you start a true freshman your asking for trouble. Bringing in an OC that can simplify the offense will make it easier. RB and WR development has also been an issue.
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Tony (admin)
KeymasterI figured the discussion would devolve eventually.
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JGore
ParticipantI don’t wanna step on AZUte’s sources, but I do have a massively different take on Hill and I have some background as to why. So both of my in-laws are Weber State alumni and longtime boosters. Along with being pretty good friends with several folks in the AD’s office, Jay Hill and his family actually lived 3 houses down from them in South Ogden before he took the TDS gig.
I firmly believe what I’m about to share, but AZ, please know that I’m not here to drag on your sources or claim that mine are in some way better than yours.
With all that said, I think Hill is absolutely looking to parlay his BYU job into an HC opportunity. The talk around here was that even with the massive pay bump, Hill struggled mightily with leaving his HC spot at Weber in favor of becoming the DC in Provo but he ultimately did it because he was starting to feel like other HC opportunities were passing him by while he was at Weber. Basically, winning at Weber was not upping his profile enough and he felt like he could improve his chances by putting his stamp on the BYU defense.
So far, I think it’s working and if TDS’s D takes another step this season, it’s gonna be mighty hard to keep him in Provo. There’s even talk that he was willing to take the Utah State job but pulled his name out of the running when it became clear Bronco was trending towards their #1 choice.
Again, I’m bringing conflicting sources to the table but if a school out west pursues Hill after this year, I’d be absolutely stunned if he didn’t take it.
I also believe the smoke around the theory that Shaw is happy right where he’s at as DB coach and that Colton Swann would be Scalley’s choice as DC. It’s the right call too. Swann is an absolute star in the making- especially in recruiting. And I have 100% faith that the following tidbit is true: When Hill left to join BYU, Weber State immediately called Swann and offered him the HC gig without even interviewing him. After talking it over with his wife, they both felt extremely confident in staying the course at Utah was better in the long run than jumping at the Weber gig. They made that call because Swann thinks that Scalley will be the HC VERY soon and that he’ll be the one stepping into the DC role.
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PhillyUte
ParticipantGive it a rest. Some people just want to close their eyes, plug their ears, and dismiss inconvenient facts.
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Roy Rangum
ParticipantUtegator: when rising went down, we had a serviceable QB – Brandon Rose. The problem is he didn’t see the field until after a 4 game losing streak just prior to that, during which time Wilson was abysmal, and Whittingham even tried to force Rising back out there after he had already incurred a career ending injury (and was clearly struggling on the field). On top of that, after Rose incurred a season ending injury in the one game he started, Whitt kept him on the field anyways, when arguably Bottari could have gotten the job done (which he showed against UCF). Think about that, in the same season, we had 2 QB’s continue to play for extended amounts of time after incurring season / career ending injuries and that were clearly struggling.
To me that’s not a lack of talent issue, that’s gross mismanagement of the talent we had. And while we do have a new OC, you really don’t think he’s going to have the exact same issue ms every other OC has had under Whittingham?
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GameForAnyFuss
ParticipantThe best thing football could do if they were serious about protecting the health of athletes would be to get rid of pads and helmets. Make guys have to tackle properly. Of course, with fans’ and media’s obsession with the “big hit” and replays of big hits, this will never happen.
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RoboUte
Participantthe man who cut all ties with him when he found out he was a sex offender
Oh you’re that gullible. Here’s a quote from another pedophile, but this one you’ll choose to believe:
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy… He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
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BeachUte
ParticipantI like the positivity but Utah’s future is murkier than I think you’re suggesting.
1. It’s not certain Utah will bounce back big this year. They should be improved but it’s also possible that improvement only nets them an additional win or two compared to last year.
2. Utah is not on the Big 10’s radar. Utah can try to work that Big 10 invite all they want but there is only passing interest in Utah. They might get a better look if they expand beyond 20 teams but that isn’t likely happening for a while and certainly would be tied to the Big 10 and SEC splitting off and making their own division.
I know this will be unpopular but Utah fans need to drop the idea. Even if the Big 10 looks west to help balance UCLA and USC, Cal and Stanford are still the more likely option. And then after them, probably Colorado and ASU, especially if the Sun Devils keep winning like they did last season.
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UteThunder
ParticipantYou didn’t have to.
Philly ✔️
Hate Trump ✔️
Poor reasoning skills ✔️
No counter argument ✔️
Definitely a leftist.
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UteThunder
ParticipantAh, the words of the world’s most notorious sex offender and a known liar, who certainly didn’t have an axe to grind against the man who cut all ties with him when he found out he was a sex offender (the irony of claiming he has no moral compass). Great source to base your opinion about someone on.
To answer your question, I can only speculate. Maybe it provides him some sort of leverage. Maybe the DOJ is still building a larger case against people on the list. Maybe it’s because if we the people were to find out all of the people who are actually on the list, it would be so devastating to the fabric of our nation it would result in total chaos. Who knows?
Regardless, the idea that Trump is on it (something even Epstein’s former lawyer vehemently denied on CNN) and the Dems sat on it for four years is just absolutely laughable.
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