Utetopia – I believe Joe’s wife’s name is Cathy. I was a missionary in that ward when Joe (although I think his name was Dick) was Ward Mission Leader in late ‘97. If Dick was the former President of the PCC and I believe he was trying to launch a PCC type theme park in San Diego, we are talking the same guy.
I was in La Jolla a couple months ago and saw a Ute flag flying on a tall flag poll. Was that you?