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[J Rocksville]

Looking back at the last few years of transfer portal movement, we have come out way ahead in the talent gained vs talent lost. Hoping the trend continues.

[J Rocksville]

I realize this is all anecdotal, but are all of those guys even coaching?

I get the sentiment to bring back star players as staff, but being good at football doesn’t necessarily make you good at teaching football or recruiting.

I’d actually be surprised if Covey doesn’t hang them up in a year or two and come back to coach. That dude just seems like he was engineered to be a football coach at some point, and at some point he’d make more as a coach than as a dedicated return guy. Maybe the new return format will make him more valuable…

[J Rocksville]

I agree, but even the best teams have a tough time and need a lot of things to fall their way. The NIL situation is the wild west right now, but even with the income gap between the B1G and SEC to the B12, they can’t pay EVERYONE. Nobody is going to be paying 3 TE’s 7 figures each, so kids that aren’t cracking the rotation right away are going to be moving around.

All the blue chip kids will want to go to the 10-15 teams that compete at the top every year, but there are enough talented kids that those programs can’t offer money or playing time to everyone, and for every kid developed by a program like ours that jumps to a bigger school, there will be 4* kids that leave bigger schools for an opportunity at playing time and earning themselves some money. Like Calhoun and Lyons. It’s going to look different, but I suspect the flow of developable talent out of the big programs will be about the same as the flow of established talent into them. Integrating that many new starters every year has to hurt continuity.

The gap between the B12 and those leagues isn’t as big as the gap was from the MW to the P5. We’re in shouting distance and during a good season with some good luck, I don’t see why we can’t compete for the crown. I do share your fear that Utah isn’t a perennial brand, and I hope football doesn’t drop off like basketball has…or similar to how Nebraska dropped off the radar for so long. At least Nebraska has decades of success to lean on.

[J Rocksville]

Sheesh, that kid is on the run. His profile says American Fork, that Twitter post is from LA, his stats in 22 are from AZ, and from Texas in 23.

The other TE on our visit list, Vander Ploog, looks like a good get. I’d assume he’s more of a pass catching TE with his dimensions, and Bear is more of a traditional big body TE.

[J Rocksville]

Regardless of our thoughts on it, it still has potential to cast a negative light on our state and institution. I think there are likely lots of people who don’t know all that much about the situation, and will take whatever spin the media and NAACP choose to put on the story.

[J Rocksville]

If we have a 1000 yard receiver.

Imagine what the run game could do if defenses legitimately had respect the receivers.

[J Rocksville]

You know, it is actually possible to make the best possible decision, and still not have it work out.

None of us know what happened on the inside. Even with the benefit of hindsight you still don’t know all that went into those decisions. You can have an opinion of course, but even with all the info we have we still don’t really know what went on. It’s all a guess and your guess is as good as any.

[J Rocksville]

…only limited by the complexity of Ludwig’s offense?

[J Rocksville]

Ya man, you’re right. It was an off the wall post. I was having a shitty afternoon and guess I felt like hammering on my keyboard a bit. My apologies. I also didn’t intend for the topic to become political, it was more of an observation of potential national attention that might come our way.

[J Rocksville]

I don’t feel like I should have to spoon feed you my point because you (you, the highly informed singular consensus) feign lack of understanding. Either you do understand the point, or you are totally clueless to how messages are disseminated through media and to the average public. More likely you do understand and just disagree with DEI programs, which is an entirely different issue but something you’re apparently passionate about enough to try and set up a straw man to debate about something tangential. At no point did I voice support of, or opposition to, DEI programs. Your opinion of them has no bearing on the topic of this thread, nor does mine.

My point is how this type of media messaging might impact potential recruits who already think Utah is as diverse as a stack of printer paper. Do you want me to explain how media spins messages in a way that the casual, un-informed or uneducated person will take? This is pretty basic stuff.

Would you at least agree that there “might” be someone that has a different opinion about Utah’s recent stance on the DEI topic? And in this hypothetical realm where someone believes or interprets something different than you, would you also agree that it “might” be possible for some of those people to be in/about/around or looking to be in/about/around our sports programs? Could it “possibly” be that those people, who “might” have a different perspective on that (not saying who’s right or wrong, but it’s probably not a deontological point amiright?), might be influenced one way or another by the national media’s messaging? Theoretically?