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I’ve read everything you wrote, but I can’t tell if your issue is w/ NIL in general or if you’re just discriminating against religious institutions. Based on everything you wrote, it sounds like both.

The argument I made is they shouldn’t allow it. I’m sure there are ways they could enforce it, but again, it’s not my job to provide you with examples on that. If or Notre Dame wanted to stop such things, they most certainly could.

Where we are, NIL is a cancer on college athletics. I’ve never donated to any collective nor will I. So…[Read more]

I am a Utah fan. Have been my whole life–including many rough decades. Also, I am not a fan of NIL. I am not a defender of the system. Just a defender of fairness within the system (despite its flaws).

My gripe is people calling out another school for doing the very thing our school is doing (and, frankly, wish we could do better).

Yes, BYU…[Read more]

I told myself that when we started losing players to P2 NIL $$, I’m out. I think I’m going to have to evaluate how serious I am about that.

So you are saying he is not going there because he is getting paid? That is pay for play, paying someone before they have produced anything money. Only 5.5 mil. If you are a member and Ute fan without blue goggles I am surprised you think this is something you would expect of the church run institution. I know the church isn’t paying, I’m tal…[Read more]

In late October – I felt that the team morale was at an all-time low and that we would lose many players to the portal. My thoughts were right. Losing Calhoun is the biggest loss so far IMO.

We do not have the capability to do what Colorado did. Coach Prime was a huge draw for obvious reasons. He could turn the entire team over in two…[Read more]

This is way painful. Especially considering how he led us on (the fans, the team, etc.). Hopefully college sports changes something sooner rather than later. It’s pro sports but w/out salary caps, contracts, or a draft. Hard enough for small markets to compete in pro sports w/ those things in place.

Definitely a turn-off to college athletics and the direction it’s heading.

I’ve made my point quite clear. You can go re-read it, or look for similar threads regarding this very subject to get it. At this point, it’s just talking in circles.

Just him saying they “offered”
It’s basically recruitment.

Agree 100%. I believe it’s seriously hurting the sport. The NCAA doesn’t have the guts to do anything and no one else seems to either, so here we are in this mess that we can’t backtrack on.

Based on his history on here, Stone is obviously a Ute fan.

I’m confused, what standard are you saying BYU should live up to? You’re saying that b/c they’re a religious organization, they should live by the following standards?
– That they shouldn’t allow their athletes to receive NIL deals from third party donors?
– And that, by allowing…[Read more]

Totally agree that NIL is a joke. I am no defender of the system. It is laughable that it is under the auspices of name, image, likeness–none of the money being paid is actually tied to that. Like you said, we are not seeing ads with these players. It is straight up bribes. I think it has made a mess of things. I would rather see players become…[Read more]

Far be it from me to defend BYU on this issue, but I am happy to defend the Church as an Institution. The claim here is that there is hypocrisy in saying they don’t want BYU to be in a Pay for Play situation. I would actually argue, the current AJ signing and NIL is actually one of the few current exceptions where we have an honest-to-goodness NIL…[Read more]

Not trying to be dramatic but this encapsulates everything about college football that is pushing me away from the sport. It’s getting ridiculous, yet no one is implementing boundaries on these things. Now the main focus is on $$$, whether that be transfers, conference realignment, etc etc.

I saw that today too. I’m hoping we start hearing of more coming for a visit or getting offered soon! Lots of guys jumping in the transfer portal.

Frankly, it’s a huge turnoff when all this stuff happens and fans are still expected to attend games, buy merchandise, donate to the collective, travel for bowls, etc etc while everyone else is concerned just about the money.

And same with players.

Agreed.

I just went to Calhoun’s X profile where he announced he’s going to the portal, and I was so tempted to respond something like “I wish you nothing, you traitor.”

But I didn’t. I won’t say anything.

But I was tempted. Almost did.

I think many fans have had an attitude of “don’t talk bad to players even if…[Read more]