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Stone replied to the topic “AJ Dybantsa's NIL number was close to $7 million“ Adam Zagoria on X in the forum They So Poo Poo 31 minutes ago
I will add that it is possible for ANY university, public or private to benefit from NIL. All it takes is a booster that has plenty of money and is willing to put it toward the school’s athletic success. That is the crazy thing about NIL. A billionaire, such as Phil Knight or Ryan Smith, can offer huge sums to recruits and completely transform and…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic “AJ Dybantsa's NIL number was close to $7 million“ Adam Zagoria on X in the forum They So Poo Poo 42 minutes ago
Is it your position that all Utah boosters should donate to more worthy causes than Utah athletics? The University of Utah’s mission is to educate, not pay people to bounce and throw a ball through a hoop. So is the University of Utah hypocritical to allow boosters to sponsor recruits?
Who decides what is a “worthy cause”? Is every non-essential…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic Why Paying Players Hasn't Fixed College Sports in the forum Football 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
I would support this approach. Make it minor league NFL.
Then let college sports be students that play sports. Instead of athletes that got to class (sometimes).
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Stone replied to the topic “AJ Dybantsa's NIL number was close to $7 million“ Adam Zagoria on X in the forum They So Poo Poo 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
I totally agree that there is no real monetization. The “investment” by a booster in NIL is one with extremely limited (if any) financial returns for the booster. It is essentially a hobby for the booster. But that has largely always been the case. There is no real financial return to donate large sums to an athletic department or buy a box seat.…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic “AJ Dybantsa's NIL number was close to $7 million“ Adam Zagoria on X in the forum They So Poo Poo 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
But how exactly is Clark hypocritical? Has he stated that he supports Ryan Smith sponsoring an athlete? Does he have the ability to prohibit Ryan Smith from paying an athlete? Also, how are BYU fans hypocritical in this? For supporting a booster paying an athlete to go to the school they support? Did they collectively say that they would never…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic “AJ Dybantsa's NIL number was close to $7 million“ Adam Zagoria on X in the forum They So Poo Poo 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
Look, I understand the gripe. But is Clark Gilbert paying the athlete? Is the athletic department paying the athlete? If Nike wants to pay a guy to sign with Oregon, does the Oregon Athletic Director get to void that contract? What is Clark Gilbert’s role in deciding whether a booster can pay an athlete? The whole point of NIL is that players get…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic New Mexico 2024 Rushing TD’s: 37, Utah: 7 in the forum Football 4 days, 4 hours ago
I do not think anyone is disputing that New Mexico played weaker competition than P4 conferences. But all four of the OCs that were being considered (Washington State, Texas State, UNLV, and New Mexico) are all at that same lower level (New Mexico was essentially in the same conference as Washington State and UNLV). So the critique would apply…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic New Offensive Coordinator Jason Beck in the forum Football 4 days, 18 hours ago
Arbuckle was head of the 22nd ranked offense last year.
Leftwich was head of the 6th ranked offense last year.
Beck was head of the 4th ranked offense last year.Beck has more experience at the FBS level than either of those other guys. Spent many years in ACC at Virginia and then at Syracuse. I recognize Arbuckle and Leftwich were hotter…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic No Trust For Whittingham on Offense in the forum Football 5 days ago
It is almost as if it has very little to do with the OC or even the Head Coach (in terms of schemes and approach), and almost entirely dependent on the QB. We can certainly blame the lack of a good QB on the coaches (recruiting/development), but based on those numbers above, it seems like the play-calling and schemes are far less important that…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic Leftwich in the forum Football 5 days, 18 hours ago
This comment is gold.
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Stone replied to the topic OC in the forum Football 6 days, 3 hours ago
Do you have info that Scalley would not agree with a Beck hire?
I do not have strong feelings about any of the names being floated for OC, but I would assume Scalley will have plenty of input on the hire.
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Stone started the topic Wilson debacle is on Whit in the forum Football 2 weeks, 1 day ago
Anyone with eyes that see can discern that Utah’s chances of winning are better with Rose than Wilson. The same is true for Bottari. Who knows about Huard (seeing as Whit closes all practices).
Wilson may one day be a good or even great college QB. But he is CLEARLY not there now. I would be fine with that if there weren’t clearly better QBs…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic Kuithe injury in the forum Football 4 weeks ago
I disagree. There is definitely some contact pre-limp, but the limp comes after he plants on the left foot to change direction. The contact prior does not look malicious. Nor does the subsequent contact where Kuithe goes down. It looks like Kuithe collapsed from the injury on the change of direction and the defender does not expect the sudden…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic Honest question that I know I’m going to get murdered over in the forum Football 4 weeks ago
It is the best angle. Thank you for sharing. It changes my mind. Whether the call should have been made in that situation can be debated, but Utah’s defender definitely grabbed the receiver’s jersey and held. The subsequent facemask by the defender came afterward. I no longer question whether there was a hold on the play (I previously did).
Even…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic "We can never become a place where the culture is pay to play." in the forum They So Poo Poo 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Lots of the criticisms here seem to be envy and a misunderstanding of NIL.
I think every fan base wishes they had a Phil Knight or Ryan Smith as a booster. I sure do. That said, I think NIL has caused my interest in college sports to diminish–I am still a HUGE fan, but my interest has certainly not increased since NIL. Because the genie is never…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic NIL and Parity in College Football in the forum Football 1 month, 3 weeks ago
NIL has brought both parody and parity to college football.
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Stone replied to the topic Reid and O'Toole injury update? in the forum Football 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Although I sort of understand the potential gamesmanship and advantage of not saying if a star QB is playing (although I fall on the side of more disclosure), it boggles my mind that the coaches think there is ANY advantage in not disclosing the return timetable of someone like Reid. Maybe I am wrong, but I do not think opposing teams are changing…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic As seen at the Utah Hockey Club game… in the forum NHL 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Middle aged Utah white guy thing? Do you really think that only middle aged white guys in Utah wear their hats backward? Seriously? Have you ever looked around you when outside Utah? It is a common practice among people of all skin colors, of all ages, in all geographic areas. Does everyone do it? No. But it is hardly some cultural practice unique…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic Non-Disturbing Reality in Utah in-state recruiting in the forum Football 2 months, 1 week ago
To clarify, I believe Utah recruited more of the top ten in-state players than that, but that is how many signed with Utah. Your point remains the same (in terms of success trends for signing in-state recruits). But I want to clarify the distinction because the original poster on the other thread made it sound like Utah was not even recruiting the…[Read more]
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Stone replied to the topic Disturbing Trend for The '26 Recruiting Class in the forum Football 2 months, 1 week ago
You say this:
“If Utah really wants to secure their future, they need to swing for the fence and recruit the local kids.”
Is Utah not recruiting these local kids? Or is Utah just not getting commitments from them. I assume Utah is swinging for the fences and trying to recruit them (maybe I am wrong), but recruiting them only goes so far, there…[Read more]
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