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09/21/2015 at 7:33 PM #999
In reply to: Utah sports radio is definitely not for Ute fans…
bigmanUTE
Participantstay away from gordon monson… thats my only rule when listening to local radio
09/21/2015 at 7:05 PM #988In reply to: So is Stanford now for real? I love conference play.
Utahman04
ParticipantThe USC loss does matter in the South race, because as I understand it, the the winner of the South is determined by each teams overall Pac12 record not the division record. The division record is only important for tie breaker purposes.
09/21/2015 at 6:46 PM #980In reply to: Is There a Clear Separation between TW and KT?
USS Utah
ParticipantSo the OP presented a lot of stats and then declared that the only acceptable response was more stats. Frankly, I’m not surprised at some of the responses generated by the OP.
Rick Majarus used to say that stats are like Brazilian bikinis, they conceal as much as they reveal. One thing that stats conceal is the level of competition. Also, outcomes are not based solely on stats. Here is an example from history — a major air campaign during the Second World War:
Force A started the campaign with 4,000 aircraft, of which 1,107 were single seat fighters and 307 were two seat, two engine fighters. This force started with 1,450 pilots for the 1,464 fighters.
Over the course of the campaign, Force A lost about 1,600 aircraft, of which 762 were fighters, 2,500 aircrew killed and 967 captured.
Force B claimed to destroy 2,698 Force A aircraft of all types.
Force B started the campaign with 800 fighters and 1,000 pilots. 1000 pilots from allied nations augmented the Force B pilots. Production of replacement fighters would ramp up just prior to the campaign to 350 a month.
Force B lost 1,087 fighters, along with 513 aircraft of other types. 900 fighter pilots were killed, missing or wounded — a 40 percent casualty rate.
Force A claimed to destroy 3,198 Force B aircraft of all types.
Based on the numbers, which force do you think won the battle?
If you said Force B, you are correct.
The campaign was the Battle of Britain, Force A was the Luftwaffe and Force B was the RAF.
I will give KT credit for making some key throws on third down, but they were against lesser competition and for relatively short yardage. After a week of practice with starter’s reps, I expected to see the KT of the first drive against Oregon, but I didn’t. He appeared serviceable rather than dynamic. While TW is not going to set the world on fire, he does appear more dynamic this year than he did last year.
09/21/2015 at 6:42 PM #695In reply to: Pics of the new turf
UteSteve
ParticipantThat’s going to look really sexy. I’m excited to see “Utes” in the end zone again as well. I know the old turf had a warranty up to 14 years or something like that, and it only lasted 7. Any idea if we got a discount on the new field? Just thinking, if Utah has enough money to just up and buy a new field mid-season you would think we could get at least started on the new SEZ, no?
09/21/2015 at 5:49 PM #956In reply to: A New Beginning
Anonymous
ParticipantHello Utes…another ex-ufn member. Although I didn’t post frequently on ufn, I had been a member there since 10/2003. Left ufn over a year ago and have been only been lurking a bit there. Also, am a member of Utahby5, which has been pretty good so far.
Look forward to interacting with fellow Utes here and to having a more positive experience.
Go Utes!
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09/21/2015 at 5:49 PM #955In reply to: A New Beginning
Anonymous
InactiveWhat’s funny is that soon the “Board Elite” over at UFN will only have themselves to post to each other. UFN will become the Ashley Madison of Ute Sports: Board Elite goes there to post snarky comments to Board elite.
09/21/2015 at 5:46 PM #949In reply to: Friendly reminder, The Drive begins on Wednesday!!!
UteSteve
ParticipantAh that’s pretty disappointing if true. UCLA got full episodes last year (I know they were the only team, but still). I was hoping for the same this year.
09/21/2015 at 5:45 PM #640In reply to: Is There a Clear Separation between TW and KT?
GadValleyUte
ParticipantSo I had a few minutes to look at stats since that’s all you’re interested in
Yards per play on offense TW 6.23 KT 5.27 – that doesn’t seem like much but in a series that 3 yards closer to a 3rd down conversion under TW that’s a big deal in terms of play calling, but of course the 3rd down conversion rate makes me question the validity of that argument.
Really there are 3 statistics I think matter. Wins, points scored, and a corollary to that expected points added.
So we have to take into account level of competition. Current Sagarin rankings of UM (36) and FSU (103) are pretty different so I think any tie is actually a clear win for TW.Wins. I think we give each 1.5 wins. I will say TWs solo win trumps KTs.
Points scored. How many points have been scored with the QB taking the snap? In both cases the answer is 24. Both have had 4 touchdowns. Again 2 TDs against UM trumps 3 against FSU and Travis lead 2 long drives against USU to KTs one. Add that to the fact that 1 of Kt’s 4 Td drives was a garbage time score against a beaten team.Avg TD drive length slightly favors KT 81.5 vs TW 73.5
If you broaden that to include drives that end in FGs then things even out
KTs’s 2 FG drives were 60 and 20 yds – avg 40 with total scoring drive average
71yds/scoring drive and 14.2/yds driven/point scoredTW’s has had 2 missed FGs at the end of his drives, but neither was in the red zone, but his 1 drive that stalled in the red zone was 63 yards.
74yds/scoring drive and 13.7 yards drive/point scoredAgain basically the same numbers but Travis did it against tougher competition
Expected Points Added – Fancy WAR type stat ESPN runs
TW 11.6, KT 3.6Like I said before the stats may be “objective” and no different but we’ve only got 90 minutes of play for each guy this year, and so they’re kinda suspect, but the fact they are the same against substantially different competition says something to me.
09/21/2015 at 5:40 PM #944JDub1942
ParticipantI havent been listening to much lately as my car radio is broken (the actual radio, not the sound system). But even when I do I have a short commute (impossible in Orange County I know) so I dont listen more than 30 minutes a day. The only radio show I cant stand is that guy in the afternoon on the Angels station, dude is annoying as hell even though Im partial to the Angels.
Its surprising at how little college football they actually talk about though, back in Utah it seems like NCAA football is talked about on the radio A LOT more.
09/21/2015 at 5:27 PM #932In reply to: Notifications?
UteSteve
ParticipantThanks! I did get it this time. If you don’t mind, my next question is this – Do you only get notified when you are the author of the original post/thread? It would also be nice to get notified when someone specifically replies to any post you make regardless of position in the thread.
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