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Not to mention, bringing Bateman back to Utah was completely Whitt. He tried to turn him into a TE. If there is one constant in Utah’s QB recruiting, it’s that they will most likely be better suited for another position or sport.

I’d go with coached all of those and maybe developed Dak Prescott depending on how much credit you want to give Mullen.

I’d go with coached all of those and maybe developed Dak Prescott depending on how much credit you want to give Mullen.

My bad, I was thinking the left hander out of a Washington or Oregon HS that wasn’t recruited by anyone else. Guard’s college career sadly is similar to Cooper Bateman’s.

Mike Leach took over a WSU program that had one .500 season the 8 years before he got there. That won 9 games total the previous 4 seasons before 2012 in an era when you could only improve your team through recruiting which typically took 3 seasons before bearing fruit. Mike Leach could have only dreamed of having the recruiting profile of Utah…[Read more]

That’s the thing, I’m not sure that damn near every QB that comes through Utah is as bad as their career stats. Any more than I believe that Utah is completely incapable of recruiting a receiver that can get open and catch the ball when thrown to. You aren’t weak at those positions every year unless your scheme dictates that you will be.

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Ohio State had a 1st round pick at QB, a 1st round pick at receiver (Jaxson Smith-something), a blue chip O Line and a blue chip RB who will be in the league next year if he isn’t already. Let’s not pretend Harrison Jr beat Utah on his own. Or that all that damage through the air wasn’t done against a secondary featuring Micah Bernard.

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Bateman was a 4 star out of Cottonwood who went to Alabama. Maybe you are thinking of Cooper Justice who was Ludwig’s first QB recruit in 2019?

Cooper Bateman, class of 2013

Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, and now Jayden Daniels.

I haven’t followed Johnson’s career. Which QB’s has he developed?

Said it before. Leach was brilliant at making a complex system simple with plug and play WRs and QBs fitting his system. QBs we’re essentially the same skill set. His list of QBs he coached and QBs that went through the WSU system is impressive. Over the past 20 years under KW, Snoop-Erickson, Smith-Mcbride recruit, the QB position talent has b…[Read more]

Which is crazy given one was a 5* and the other a PWO or 1 offer recruit (I forget which Bateman was).

Thanks Miami for the interesting OC pay. If Whitt stays or retires he consults Scalley. We have the money to pay an experienced OC. The offense needs to be designed off the talent you have not the talent you wish you had.

History shows we can recruit RBs and TEs but with the portal there will be disgruntled playmakers that are not getting a…[Read more]

Speaking of Moss – I miss Dennis Erickson simply for his Florida recruiting ties. I know Brian Johnson spent a couple of years at UF, I wouldn’t be opposed to him getting an interview for HC or OC (if he wanted it) once Whitt is gone, assuming he could tap into Florida high schools. His ability to develop QB’s is a huge plus as well.

This thread makes me laugh but also incredibly painful.

What a wreck of a season.

This one hurts me the most for some reason.

The portal opens in less than a month and Utah currently hasn’t named an OC. Who that’s planning on entering the portal right now chooses Utah to come and play offense next year? At least prior to 2024 you could sell receivers on playing with Rising in an offense that had been top 15 in 2021/2022. Now? Every kid in the country can quickly pull…[Read more]

Mike Leach first 3 years at WSU is 3-9, 6-7, 3-9 and last year was 6-7. Maybe he had great offense every year but still had losing years. I’m sure WSU fans were hoping Leach could coach defense. Leach is all about offense and Whitt is about defense. Scalley will also be defensive mind. At the end of the day, it’s the W that matters.

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Don’t put your eggs in the Huard basket. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he ended up throwing the same number of passes in his Utah career as Cooper Bateman. Or me. But at least my total fit with my recruiting ranking.,,