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  • rbmw263
    Ute Fan
    @rbmw263

    It’s safe to say we are a solid team. Unfortunately we are the ~40th best team in the country with a schedule that has 8 top 40 teams. Splitting those would be dojng very well and that’s an 8-4 season. With top tier health i still think this could have been a top 20-30 team. 

    Young and in a rebuilding year we could not afford to lose ecperienc ed guys like Hansen and sunia. With unlikely amazing health this season had a 10 win cieling. But 6-8 wins was always far and away the most probable outcome. 
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    PlainsUte
    Ute Fan
    @plainsute

    The following quantitive prediction website is run by a TDS alum/fan.  He shows USU with a 60-something percent chance of USU winning by about 3.5 points.

    http://gmbassett.nfshost.com/football/col_17wk05pred.html

    Sagarin Predictor points have USU at 63.38 vs TDS at 66.02, but with a 2.4 pt home advantage that makes it just about even.  With a rowdy USU crowd the home field advantage might even be greater than 2.4 pts.   I think if USU has some success early it will keep the crowd in it.

    #42434

    In reply to: ESPN FPI


    rbmw263
    Ute Fan
    @rbmw263

    All you need to know about fpi is that it is released before the season. There is so many variables and annual turnover in cfb that this is.

    Sagarin and s&p are far better analytics 
    #30662

    PlainsUte
    Ute Fan
    @plainsute

    Dunno about match-ups, but one objective way to look at it is Sagarin Predictor.    Predicts a 10-point Utah win, including 3 pt home court margin.

     

    Hopefully the Utah team that smoked Cal at home will show up, not the team that lost to Cal in Vegas.

    #28440

    UteThunder
    Ute Fan
    @utethunder

    Lady mentioned below how BYU fans seem to believe that Sitake is their savior and how much better he is than Mendenhall.

    I don’t understand where they get this idea that Sitake is so much better than Bronco.

    In 2015 Bronco led BYU to a 9-4 record against a schedule rated #65 by Sagarin.

    In 2016 Sitake led BYU to a 9-4 record against a schedule rated #75 by Sagarin.

    BYU fans somehow see this as an improvement over Bronco which is weird when you consider that Sitake inherited a team that returned nearly every starter from 2015 plus the return of Williams and Hill who sat out the previous season due to honor code and injury.

    He took virtually the same team and performed the same as, or worse than if you factor in SOS, his predecessor.

    Throw in Sitake’s recruiting rankings which are pretty much identical to Bronco’s and I just don’t see what they see. Am I crazy?

     


    rbmw263
    Ute Fan
    @rbmw263

    Beat Oregon State by 8. While that in and of itself may be true, the committee will definitely care about statistical rankigs such as Kenpom and Sagarin. These rankings are both going to be our strongest argument for inclusion, so the higher we can finish in them the better. We dropped from 31 to 43 in Kenpom after the OSU game. 

     

    Style points matter in these statistical rankings, and we are going to rely on them heavily for inclusion in the tournament. Larry HAS to see this.

    #20927

    Anonymous
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    I went straight by Sagarin’s rankings and ended up 3-3. Had I adjusted it would have been to pick SDSU over Houston.

    Went to the standings and I’m not listed. Only listings are for those with 7 game picks, yet my Pick Em schedule only showed 6 games.

    #17114

    In reply to: Local Media


    Utah
    Ute Fan
    @utah

    The PAC-12 is NOT having a down year. You have Utah, Washington and Colorado ranked (WSU should be ranked, but they lost their first game). 

    The reason why the PAC-12 is down is not because it sucks. Sagarin ranks it #2 in the country. 

    It is down because USC, Stanford and Oregon aren’t doing as well. That’s it. If name brands aren’t on top, then the conference sucks. It’s lazy journalism at its best. 

     


    rbmw263
    Ute Fan
    @rbmw263

    Yet, Jeff Sagarin rates 11 out of 12 teams in our conference inside his top 60. You know what other conference can say that? Not a damn one. The Big 10 is great at the top but has a majority of their conference rated outside of the top 50, with multiple out of the top 60, the Big 12 comes close but only having 10 teams and 2 of them outside of the top 60 (one WAY outside top 60) kills their %.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/2016/conference/

    Its pretty clear, when it comes to top to bottom depth, this conference is still one of the best, if not the best, and is criminally underrated due to parity.


    noneyadb
    Ute Fan
    @noneyadb

    Sagarin has Washington rated as playing the 88th ranked SOS
    and Utah has played the 56th toughest schedule with 1 yard short of being 6-0..

                            Washington          Utah       edge
    SOS                       88                   56            U
    pts/game                50                   28            W
    passing/game        252                 255         even
    running/game        229                 180           W
    pts allowed             14                  19             W
    passing allowed    177                  231          W
    running allowed     140                 119           U

    If Utah can get some guys back and stay healthy I like Utah at home vs Washington.

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