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    • #235297
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      press-on
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      Whittingham on Rising, at the pressor Monday following the ISU game.

      “I talked to Cam after the game Saturday,” Whittingham said. “We’re going to visit this week and catch up. I have no inside scoop or anything right now as to what he’s thinking. Obviously, we’ve got to at some point make our own decisions on what, what’s going to happen if he’s still indecisive.”

      ….”What HE’s thinking, says Whitt.” …. “If HE”S still indecisive, says Whitt”.

      Um, reminds of a beautiful old vintage car I had years ago that I loved. Was a real head turner! Only problem, ….. was always in the shop. Mechanic constantly promised ‘she’ would be better than new when he finally got the right parts installed. The reality….. never worked and I was always having to bum rides with other people to get to school. Meanwhile, I was stuck paying my monthly car payment and repair bills. Bummer!

      A good friend finally set me straight. Said, “you’re and idiot! That car will never run right. Get rid of it and get one that works!” Was Great Advice!

      I might respectfully suggest the same for Whitt and Cam.

    • #235306
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      RoboUte
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      It’s like he’s learned nothing. He’ll let this program whither for the convenience of Cam Rising

    • #235308
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      SteelUte
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      What kind of car was it? Did you drive it to any Rose Bowl parades?

      • #235310
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        RoboUte
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        Is it traditional for the losing team to have a parade?

        • #235363
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          thewiz
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          As you know, the Rose Bowl Parade always occurs before the Rose Bowl game, usually at 8 AM. Ever been?

          • #235365
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            2008 National Champ
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            your sarcasm detector needs new batteries

            • #235369
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              thewiz
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              I got his sarcasm, and I replied to his sarcasm exactly how I wanted to.

        • #235364
          Anfernee
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          🤡

    • #235311
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      RUUTES
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      Somewhat like a thought this season (before it started) given Cam’s durability history….

      IF he wanted to return then I think it would have to be in a backup capacity. Tell him he’s the senior QB who will go out and take the second half snaps every game if he can but he’s not starting unless our new QB goes down. Why? Because his role will become the closer. This happens in Baseball…maybe it would work in Football too.

      But I would not bring him back with the expectation that he’d be the starter over our future talent because frankly there is no future in it. Also we’d be fools to believe he could play a whole season at this point.

      A lot rests on what his own career goals are. I can’t see him being viable in the NFL but maybe he’d be a great coach. If so then he needs to learn to lead from the sidelines sometimes. If his ego tells him he must always start…then I just wouldn’t do it

      And I respect all he has done for us….he’s a great baller. But this game is about the whole team and winning games throughout the season and also next season. So plan accordingly.

    • #235314
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      belli1976
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      I am fine with Cam coming back. But little to no NIL money. He has couple million to live off of.

      • #235403
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        Utah
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        This. We be STUPID not to bring him back if he wants to come back.

        BUT, no NIL money. Or no extra money. AND bring in another starting caliber QB to compete for the job.

    • #235315
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      UteBaron89
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      If he wanted to return, I would tell him he can compete for the job with everyone else, BUT there will be no money for him from our NIL. He’s uniquely situated in this market to get “real” NIL on his own due to his popularity. Ya know, endorsements negotiated outside the program with an agent like every other pro athlete does? We’ve given him a significant portion of our funds for two years with no ROI. Can’t roll the dice on the programs future again. You’re welcome back, but we need to use these funds to build a team that can succeed. We’ll sign another experienced guy and you may even win the job; however, you will only be on scholarship. No NIL funds from the program. I assume this would drive him elsewhere. If it didn’t, you have an extra experienced QB in the room at no cost.

      • #235327
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        RUUTES
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        I’m not fully versed in NIL but…isn’t that essentially private money or at least partly private now? I mean he can take advertiser money directly and the U can’t shut it off…or can they? I’m not clear about those aspects of how it works today. If they were employees I know it would be different.

        • #235419
          2008 National Champ
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          NIL is 100% outside money and the schools are not supposed to have anything to do with it.

          Each school has a “collective” of boosters who pool their outside money and contract with specific players.

          Conversations between the school and the collective’s are apparently allowed since I’ve not heard of anyone being accused of violating the NIL rules so far.

          After that, it’s all speculation on how much everyone is getting paid and how much the Athletic Department’s are acting as intermediary’s to get the right recruits for the right price.

    • #235323
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      jshame17
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      I never thought I’d see a player have this much say in an Utah program.

      Decides when he gets to stay in games despite clearly hurting the team.

      Decides when he plays or comes back, potentially for a 3rd time..

      And Gets to drive Whitt’s prized vintage truck…

      Cam is a unicorn…

    • #235326
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      UTE98
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      At this point Harlan might as well hire Cam, he’s running the program as it is. I for one did not want Cam back this year. I certainly didn’t change my mind based on this year’s happenings.

      It’s a no for me!

    • #235340
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      Tony (admin)
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      When I talked to Cam’s dad, who is a member here, a couple of weeks ago this is what I gathered:

      – He just had surgery
      – Recovery is 3+ months
      – He hasn’t decided yet if he’s going to play football next year
      – If he does play football next year, he’s most likely hitting the portal
      – Didn’t rule out coming back to the Utes

      • #235343
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        2008 National Champ
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        I’d ask if his father was OnlyU but don’t think his dad would have gotten his 2023 recovery status so wrong. 🙂

      • #235346
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        RoboUte
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        “– If he does play football next year, he’s most likely hitting the portal”

        Holy s**t we can’t even keep the player we sacrificed two seasons for

        • #235350
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          Tednab
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          Still it would be cool to see him and whit riding off in the sunset with another chip and an appearance in the playoffs .. even with how crappy this year turned out , I still think we could be competitive next year .. bring him back .. hell , we’ve needed five QBs just to finish the last two years anyways

          • #235366
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            2008 National Champ
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            or more likely, after sustaining multiple season ending injuries to his legs he is a shell of his former self and the Cam/Whitt combination goes 5-7 because there is no playable depth at the position once the inevitable injury occurs

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    • #235354
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      NorthernUte
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      I’d be thrilled to see him come back as an assistant of sorts. There’s no doubt that he was a winner, just was always injured. Go ahead and pay him some money to come back and be an assistant but it sure as hell better not be 2 million.

    • #235356
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      RustyShackleford
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      I would take him back in a heartbeat, under 2 conditions. 1. Significantly lower NIL deal. 2. Not guaranteed the starting job and we bring in people to compete for the job.

      • #235418
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        HoosierUte
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        When Cam Rising is on our roster, it becomes much harder to attract a portal transfer who wants to be #1. I believe Whitt said a month or so ago that they had been very active in the QB portal during the offseason but couldn’t get traction with starter-level guys because they knew this was Cam’s program. I love the guy and would want nothing more than another season of healthy Cam, but it’s probably time we both move on.

    • #235362
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      EagleMountainUte
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      This is the s**t most fans just don’t understand. Whitts calves be damned, it is bad coaching to be saying this with early signing period starting.

    • #235414
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      Charlie Foxtrot
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      Setting aside Cam coming back or not, I hope that someone in the medical field has a serious talk with him about how the injuries he has sustained playing football may impact his physical health the rest of his life.

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