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Uteanooga
ParticipantI really don’t see the point of rehashing this out again. No one has to worry about whether Rising will start for Utah again.
Every single Utah fan loved the P12 title runs that Rising led. Tip your hat to him and move on.
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Uteanooga
ParticipantI really don’t see the point of rehashing this out again. No one has to worry about whether Rising will start for Utah again.
Every single Utah fan loved the P12 title runs that Rising led. Tip your hat to him and move on.
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ProudUte
ParticipantRising, more than any former Utah player, generates the full range of emotions among die-hard Utah fans. He led us to two PAC12 championships and two Rose Bowls. Who will ever forget his gutsy performance against USC in 2022. He was then the true leader of this team.
On the other side of the coin, Rising and his injuries caused angst and frustration among Utah fans. Some of this is because Whitt and how he handled things. I don’t know what went on in the locker room during the 2023/2024 seasons. The locker room was a disaster last season for sure. How much of this is on Rising? Any answer would be subjective at best. Personally, I blame Whitt. Yrt, admittedly – I was not in the locker room, so this is just one man’s subjective opinion.
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HATUman
ParticipantThe information I provided was feedback from the players, from a trusted source. All I did was tell you how some of them said they felt. Did every player feel that way? Clearly that wasn’t the case, but some did, and that’s why the locker room was divided. I see and read about what Dampier has been doing to gain the trust of his teammates, the locker room sounds like it’s in a great place, I’m excited to see how it all plays out.
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wally
ParticipantThere is a an adage named “Hanlon’s Razor” which essentially suggests that “one should not attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. In simpler terms, it’s a reminder to avoid assuming malicious intent when someone’s actions can be reasonably explained by incompetence, carelessness, or a lack of understanding.
I think that the many decisions made by Cam and Coaches toward the end of Risings career, were made with good intentions, but obviously in hindsight were probably far from the best decisions. When a season ends in disappointment, everyone has their opinion on what made it fail and who was to blame.
It’s kind of like the opening line of Tolstoy’s Anna Karenina: “Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way,” Nobody worries about who gets all the credit for a championship season, because there is plenty of credit to go around and everyone is pretty happy.
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wally
ParticipantLOLOLOL! The Team is wearing a hoodie with a specific logo…. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!?!
Is this some team conspiracy? Has the team been brainwashed by the *gasp* CHRISTIANS?!?!
What even is this thread, LOL?
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OffensiveLineEnthusiast
ParticipantIs curiosity dead?
If the football team was showing up to games wearing hoodies from the Electrical Engineering Student Association, I would be asking about that, too. The religious aspect adds a wrinkle, but the question is ultimately why the Utah football team is repping an organization other than the Utah football team.
I tried to make it clear that I wasn’t up in arms about this. Perhaps I could have written it better, but it’s also on you to not assume that I’m trying to fight just because religion is involved.
It will be a sad day when we cannot ask questions just because we want to know the answer without people assuming we must have an ulterior motive.
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DataUte
ParticipantLike preseason rankings, I’d rather fall camp determine the 2-deep rather than players having to overcome and clearly be better to more up for playing time. But maybe it’s just pay rate, experience, and ratings based anyway …
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pedro
ParticipantSo…. you’re mixing facts with different situations. AND your insider knowledge is either made up by you or your friend.
Whit believed Cam could come back and play right up until the game where Cam looked like a 12 year old throwing the ball.
At the time Cam signed the high dollar NIL deals, he was playing. Whit had nothing to do with those deals and would’ve felt no obligation. Whit had to walk a fine line between putting Cam’s health at risk, trusting Cam\and his medical team, and winning games. Could Whit have handled it better? Yes. But given what we know now about how Wilson’s game was, I see why he did what he did.
Finally, Bernards comments were NOT directed at Cam. Everyone in the program knew who they were directed at and it was another QB in the system. Furthermore, these comments came after Cam was out 2-3 games; when everyone thought he still had a chance to come back and be effective.
Your arguments are an example of the BYU syndrome. I’m fine with people having other opinions. I respect that. But keep it on the level.
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Central Coast Ute
ParticipantIt wasn’t latish, it was late. But everything else you said I agree with
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