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    • #245715
      ProudUte
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      Rising, more than any former Utah player, generates the full range of emotions among die-hard Utah fans. He led us to two PAC12 championships and two Rose Bowls. Who will ever forget his gutsy performance against USC in 2022. He was then the true leader of this team.

      On the other side of the coin, Rising and his injuries caused angst and frustration among Utah fans. Some of this is because Whitt and how he handled things. I don’t know what went on in the locker room during the 2023/2024 seasons. The locker room was a disaster last season for sure. How much of this is on Rising? Any answer would be subjective at best. Personally, I blame Whitt. Yrt, admittedly – I was not in the locker room, so this is just one man’s subjective opinion.

    • #245714
      wally
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      There is a an adage named “Hanlon’s Razor” which essentially suggests that “one should not attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. In simpler terms, it’s a reminder to avoid assuming malicious intent when someone’s actions can be reasonably explained by incompetence, carelessness, or a lack of understanding.

      I think that the many decisions made by Cam and Coaches toward the end of Risings career, were made with good intentions, but obviously in hindsight were probably far from the best decisions. When a season ends in disappointment, everyone has their opinion on what made it fail and who was to blame.

      It’s kind of like the opening line of Tolstoy’s Anna Karenina: “Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way,” Nobody worries about who gets all the credit for a championship season, because there is plenty of credit to go around and everyone is pretty happy.

    • #245713
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      wally
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      LOLOLOL! The Team is wearing a hoodie with a specific logo…. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!?!

      Is this some team conspiracy? Has the team been brainwashed by the *gasp* CHRISTIANS?!?!

      What even is this thread, LOL?

      • #245716

        Is curiosity dead?

        If the football team was showing up to games wearing hoodies from the Electrical Engineering Student Association, I would be asking about that, too. The religious aspect adds a wrinkle, but the question is ultimately why the Utah football team is repping an organization other than the Utah football team.

        I tried to make it clear that I wasn’t up in arms about this. Perhaps I could have written it better, but it’s also on you to not assume that I’m trying to fight just because religion is involved.

        It will be a sad day when we cannot ask questions just because we want to know the answer without people assuming we must have an ulterior motive.

    • #245712
      DataUte
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      Like preseason rankings, I’d rather fall camp determine the 2-deep rather than players having to overcome and clearly be better to more up for playing time. But maybe it’s just pay rate, experience, and ratings based anyway …

    • #245710
      EagleMountainUte
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      It reminds me of the ole innocent until proven guilty cliche we use in our society. Then people actually see someone accused and make up all of the ways they think they are guilty.

      They should look this way or that way. They should be sad or stoic. Why are they smiling when they know they are accused of this crime? Instead of looking at facts.

      I have always disagreed with the decision to bring back Rising but I don’t need to over analyze what I think he should look like on a sideline.

      You make up straw men to start your post then act as if you watched Rising like a hawk. I do recall times he was in people’s ears. I saw it several times. I don’t think that had anything to do with why I think it was a bad decision. It was mainly that the guy has rehabbed too many injuries and moving is and always will be a big part of his game.

    • #245709
      Jim Vanderhoof
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      Very few college athletes have the “it” factor. Rising had it. His injuries isolated him from the team the past two years and he wasn’t able to lead the way he had in the past by being on the field. Last year would have been different with a healthy Rising. Great player better leader and competitor.

    • #245711
      EastCoastUte
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      unfortunately, i feel the exact same way about my expectations this year.

    • #245708
      Utesby1
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      Hmmm, I can’t see his comment

    • #245707
      pedro
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      All I’m saying is that he was clearly a leader. Hell he didn’t even go to half the games last year. It was his 2nd year of having hardly played at all and you expect him to still be invested?

      I’m not worshiping the guy, but he deserves his due. He broke a lot of barriers at Utah that most QB’s haven’t been able to do (earn Whit’s trust for example).

      Furthermore, I have yet to see anyone reference last year or even the year before for Cam’s leaderships skills.

      BTW are you going to say the same about Damuni? Of course not, because his injury situation was so controversial. I’m ok if you don’t like him, but give him his due.

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