Challenges with the NIL and future recruiting

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- 07/21/2021 at 8:23 AM #145787
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  Dwight89
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  @jordan-buckner
  
  Did y’all see the quote from Nick Saban where his QB (that HASN’T PLAYED A DOWN) has already hauled in $1MM in NIL money? Here’s an article if not:
  
  https://www.sportico.com/personalities/athletes/2021/saban-bryce-youngs-nil-pay-1234634836/ 
  
  I don’t see how this doesn’t hurt recruiting at Utah in the future. We just aren’t in a market that will pay kids that kind of money, much less kids that haven’t even proved anything yet.
  
  I’m sorry, but the NIL is not going to benefit schools like Utah one bit. Hopefully, the expanded playoff will help offset the additional hurdles we will face with the NIL.
- 07/21/2021 at 8:42 AM #145789
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  Tony (admin)
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  Crazy.
- 07/21/2021 at 9:31 AM #145791
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  Anfernee
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  I hear you but honestly, these programs are already paying these kids. It’s just technically legal now. All the blue bloods will still recruit the same. None of those guys were coming here anyway. If anything it might cause dissension and drama in those locker rooms. Guys worried more about their endorsements and not football. Let it work itself out. We’ll be fine.
  - 07/21/2021 at 10:14 AM #145794
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    Dwight89
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    @jordan-buckner
    
    QB’s that haven’t played a down were not getting $1MM from boosters two years ago at Bama. That just wasn’t happening. Maybe $10K here, $10K there. But not the levels we’re seeing now.
    
    I don’t disagree that none of those guys were coming here anyway, I just fail to see how the NIL is going to benefit schools like utah, when Bama/Ohio State/Clemson, etc can show kids that kind of $$$
    - 07/21/2021 at 12:13 PM #145807
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      UteFanatic
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      @utefanatic
      
      Maybe not $1M individual payouts, but to an extent it’s already been shown that NCAA athletes have been paid handsomely over the years. I think the extent of it would be pretty shocking to us if we had all the details.
      
      Cam Newton paid six figures for his LOI, Deandre Ayton paid six figures to play for Arizona, etc.
- 07/21/2021 at 9:34 AM #145792
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  Stone
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  I guess the hope is that the second/third string QB at Bama would get more $ as a starter somewhere else than as a bench warmer there. Might not be true – but perhaps. Bama was going to get the best QB even before NIL.
  - 07/21/2021 at 10:15 AM #145795
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    Dwight89
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    @jordan-buckner
    
    Maybe, but probably not the second stringer. A second string Bama QB is one loss away from taking on the mantle, especially if your an under-classman.
- 07/21/2021 at 9:35 AM #145793
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  SkinyUte
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  As with all things in college football, there will be 10-12 schools (Bama, Texas, Oregon, Michigan, Ohio State, etc.) that will reap huge benefits from this due to their huge networks, their boosters, and their general level of support/interest. Everyone else will see minor benefits, if any.
  
  I’d say Utah has weathered this storm better than most due to great coaches, excellent player evaluatin, and a solid system that has allowed us to have succes. But I see this as just another benefit that the big schools can tout that other schools simply have no ability to match.
  
  The rich will continue to get richer…
  - 07/21/2021 at 10:23 AM #145797
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    HoosierUte
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    Those schools will keep getting the same recruits. I think the real damage will be the rise of the major-market sleepers (USC, UCLA) that haven’t been great. Any success we had recruiting against them is going to get much more difficult.
    - 07/21/2021 at 11:14 AM #145805
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      Dallas
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      Ugh this is so true.
- 07/21/2021 at 10:28 AM #145799
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  ProudUte
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  I don’t like the NIL rule. Hopefully, they will adjust it, cap it, or something.
  
  Alabama, Oregon, Texas, et al can still only have 85 scholarships. So, it will probably not make a huge difference to the Utes.
- 07/21/2021 at 12:09 PM #145806
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  UteFanatic
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  @utefanatic
  
  I don’t think it changes anything, because I don’t believe for one second that big-time recruits at schools like Alabama weren’t already receiving huge benefits.
  
  The only difference is now a smaller school like Utah can participate without risk of sanctions. Smaller schools tend to get hammered with NCAA violations whereas the blue bloods can get away with anything.
  
  Maybe I’m wrong and it will have a huge negative effect on schools like Utah, but I doubt it will.
  - 07/21/2021 at 12:39 PM #145808
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    Dwight89
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    @jordan-buckner
    
    $1,000,000 is a lot of money to hide. I am doubtful that’s the kind of money recruits are/were getting under the table.
    
    Honestly, I hope you’re right. I just have big doubts.
    - 07/21/2021 at 12:50 PM #145809
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      UteFanatic
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      I think what it boils down to, is the 5-star recruits always have and always will end up at one of five schools anyway, regardless of the payout.
      
      The big question for me is, how will this affect the 3/4 star kids? Because this is Utah’s arena. Hopefully, not much.
- 07/21/2021 at 1:39 PM #145814
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  EagleMountainUte
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  Gonna be lullz when he transfers or sits.