9-3 Easily.

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    • #244986
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      Utah5410
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      I truly do not understand the Utah Slander on this board. Maybe it is PTSD from the last two years. Get over it.

      Utah had the worst QB play in the country last year. The worse.

      And still. We were in every game and lost by one possession except Colorado.

      Our Defense was second in the conference and top 20 nationally.

      Guess what gang our coaches are all still here and most of our dogs are back on D. In fact I think our D will be better so much better than last year just based on experience.

      Our ST will be or should be better.

      And our offensive staff/system will be better.

      So then it all comes down to DD.

      All I can say is everyone thinks he is a dog. The entire CFB world. How good will he be ? We will see. BUT. We know we have a stub o-line and our RB room should be better.

      That alone with even Average. Average QB play. Not great but Bryson Barnes QB play and we will be 9-3.

      You all seem to forget all hard it is to win @ RES.

      We nearly won every game at RES last here. And if we had a competent QB we would have.

      We will go undefeated @ RES.

      Whit loves the underdog no one believes in us role. And I love that TDS is feeling themselves, pumping there chest. They have no idea what is coming for them this year.

      No one knows what is going to happen. But the constant 7-5; 6-6; like you guys don’t remember who Utah football is is just sad.

      As always Go Utes.

    • #244990
      Uteanooga
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      Love your enthusiasm. Could be a great year, could be a middling year as far as I can tell. The B12 does not have a team stacked with elite starters and elite prospects backing up the starters. So it is hard to be certain about who will succeed.

      A great offensive line can make a decent QB look calm, wise, and effective. If the balls bounce our way a bit, and we stay relatively healthy, and Dampier/Beck ball out- it will be playoff time!

      On the other hand, if Dampier continues his tendency to throw picks, could Whitt continue green lighting the passing attack or would we tighten up and be predictable?

      If the injury bug settles in for repeated and protracted blood letting, and Dampier/Beck can’t make the transition to more competitive play- it will be meh time (and the multitudes calling for Whitt to hang it up).

      I am trying to keep expectations low and optimism high. I plan on enjoying the year.

    • #244992
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      ProudUte
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      I admire your enthusiasm, I really do. But, I don’t completely agree. A couple of counterpoints.

      1. We had a great Oline last season, yet … I understand our QB play was terrible. I blame the coaching staff for that.

      2. Our defense lost a lot of key players. Our LB starters are good and very experienced. Our safeties should be okay. But, our Dline is thin and our CBs outside of Snowden are an unknown. This may be our weakest defense in a decade. I truly hope that they excel.

      3. Our WR group is a huge question IMO.

      4. I am pleased with our starting RB, but there is no depth as far as I know.

      I think 9-3 is possible, because I don’t see a team that we cannot beat. But, there are maybe 2 teams on the schedule that you can book as wins. I am excited to see what our offense can do with a great Oline and a gamer at QB. It could be fun. I won’t even try to predict our record because I don’t know how they will all play together. There are too many unknowns.

      Go Utes!!

      • #245014
        Charlie
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        Myself, I lean more toward the first take.

        I expect the OL to be much better. All have another year of development. Lomu in particular will be better coming from just beginning with playing time to the player he became at the end of the year. I see the most settled OL that I have see in forever. QB1 is better and I expect that the offensive coaching is improved.

        The defense will be better simply because of the return of Damuni and Barton. This defense is keyed by the LBer group and having these two back at peak level will be greater than the remaining issues that need work. The CBs are unknowns but will be working with a very good safety group and has the all important slot CB solid.

        I agree the WR group is a huge question. Oddly, I wish we had Lohner for a second year but Andrews may also become a surprise but with more yards after catch. Johnson is to me, a pleasant unknown.

        Parker looks to be an addition we needed but I will miss Bernard. I have no read on the others however Utah has often had RBs rise to the top of new comers often enough to almost assume it is likely again.

        A big problem solved in the offseason… I was sensing odd coaching chemistry spilling over from 23 that clearly became unworkable in 24, all that stress. I am feeling that is all behind us and I expect the reset to provide a very nice bump in positive energy that will make everything across the board maybe about 22% better.

        But I am an optimist.

    • #244998
      Chasqui
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      9-3 seems like a stretch. There is a lot of talent in the Big12 and our schedule isn’t a cake walk. That, coupled with the instillation of a new offense is scary. I do think that we have a winnable schedule, but that is assuming our offensive system works. I don’t think anyone has doubts about defense. It’s the offense and the questions if they can keep up.

      • #245010
        chinngiskhaan
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        I don’t think anything is a stretch at this point (in terms of regular season record). We are an injury or two away from having a losing record. On the flip side of that, if Dampier improves in his decision making a little bit, and we don’t have any catastrophic injuries, there is a very real chance we make it to the Big12 championship.

        Is it a stretch to assume that bringing an MWC OC and an MWC QB over to the Big12 could be a disaster? No
        Is it a stretch to assume that bringing a successful OC/QB duo over and surrounding them with better talent across the board will help that duo shine even more? No

        The only stretch here is believing any of us really have a good idea of how this season is going to go down.

    • #245005
      Utah5410
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      Proud.

      #2 our Dline with Vaka is fine. #95 was a starter and got hurt v Baylor so at the very least we are equal. Depth may be in issue. But I like the guys behind them.

      Losing Calhoun was a blow. Prob the only blow I see TBH

      But our safeties are going to be incredible. TJ is an NFL safety and Evans came from Juco but by the end of the year was better than TJ.

      The other corner a lot I can agree. The DE are fine. Fano is back and by far our best. The other side we didn’t lose much. O tools was always hurt and filinger by the second half of the year was toast. We have 5/6 other guys opposite Fano rotate them. We will be fine.

      Opposite Parker we have Rodgers who played for NM last year and ran for over 562 yards as a second options but more import knows the system. 4 others guys behind him. We will be fine.

      Also. Yes, our OL was good last year. Now they are together another year. Think of how much better they will be

    • #245006
      Tony (admin)
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      Nothing is ever easy with Utah Football. I will be drinking no koolaid. Instead I will wait and see, and hope for the best.

    • #245007
      AlohaUte
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      I’m with you on 9-3. Though not quite as enthusiastically. A whole new offense can take a while to install. It helps that we have a few people who know it already, But, its definitely a question. Also, I think the conference has some teams who have vastly improved liked Texas Tech and Baylor. That said I expect BYU and Arizona State to take a step back. Still solid teams but not Championship worthy. Iowa State, Kansas State will both be good and I think Kansas will be improved.

    • #245008
      BeachUte
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      It’s simple: Utah has way too many questions for someone to day, “9-3 easily”. Love the optimism and I think 9-3 is possible with a few breaks but no, it’s not “easy”. That implies it’ll be the floor – and that Utah could even do better than 9-3. I’m extremely skeptical Utah can do better than 9-3 and it’s again because of the questions that we have no way of knowing the answers to at this point.

      Yes, Utah’s offense will be better, which theoretically should mean they’ll be better too because, gosh, with an awful offense last season, they still managed 5-7 and probably should have been no worse than 7-5.

      Great. A few things:

      1. Last year’s team was bad vs bad teams. They nearly lost to Oklahoma State, got bullied by Arizona in Salt Lake and seemed lost all around vs Houston. Yes, bad offenses cost Utah two of those games, no, Utah had no business losing either, especially Arizona. Those were poor losses no matter how you cut it and indicative of a larger problem that ultimately was responsible for the poor offense (some super poor coaching). The coaching change on offense might make the world of difference but I think Whittingham has to reprove himself before I buy that 9-3 is “easy” after the last two seasons.

      2. Utah had a stellar defense that kept 5-7 from being 4-8 or 3-9. That defense is largely overhauled this season talent-wise and while I expect it to be stout af this year, there’s legit concern about whether it’ll be stout right out of the gate. With all the change on offense, can Utah successfully lean into the defense while the offense finds its footing? That will be key as Utah has three season-defining games through September: @ UCLA, Texas Tech and @ WVU. While UCLA isn’t a conference game, you’ve got to think 2-1 is probably the worst they can do if they’re gonna easily hit 9-3 like you’re suggesting.

      3. Utah had its easiest schedule (sos wise) last year since the MWC days and still couldn’t finish with a winning record. 2025 is likely to be harder, maybe by a lot, and that alone could mask the improvements the team sees compared to 2024.

      I think the most likely best case scenario for Utah will be a 2014-like season, one where Utah made changes on the offense after another disappointing season, and bounced back to finish 8-4 before the bowl game. But even that team had some issues, including blowing a sizable halftime lead vs Wazzu (who was awful that year) in SLC and getting boat raced vs Arizona. They were inconsistent but good enough to be good enough… and I think that’s what we’re probably looking at as the better ending for Utah. In fact, I suspect this team to be extremely inconsistent for most the year. The question is whether that inconsistency costs them games vs UCLA and WVU and say the Kansas Schools, while keeping them from upsetting Texas Tech or BYU or Bsylor – or if it allows for an upset or two to offset a tough loss…like 2014’s team with wins over UCLA and USC that made up for bad losses to Wazzu and Arizona (who was good that year but the loss certainly wasn’t)?

      • #245012
        Rick
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        BeachUte,
        Overall, you may be right – I think 8-4 is a good year, 9-3 creeping toward great. Both of those records seem to make sense to me.

        I don’t agree with your defense point – too much is coming back to call it an overhaul. Gents, Lander Barton may be the best defensive player in the Big-12 this season. Just like Dampier on offense, we need him healthy. Lander is a special player. We thought he’d be there last season and we didn’t get that player until the last few games. Now add Damuni back with Jonathan Hall playing with them and behind them. The linebacking corp is terrific.

        I agree that depth on the D’line could be an issue but the experience of the starters at both tackles and at right end is terrific – that’s three of four starting positions. Our safeties are two of the better ones in the conference with Tao Johnson a sure pro. Cornerback is the question mark. Utah seemed to load up there in the offseason to create a strong competition for the starting positions. I’m not going to equate an inexperienced cornerback room with a defensive overhaul.

        Utah’s defense will be one of the best in the league and in the country again.

    • #245011
      D T
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      Everything hinges on remaining relatively healthy, particularly at QB, which we know all too well from the last two years.

      The best thing about DD’s time at UNM last year? He played in all 12 games AND was sacked just five times.

      Hopefully, that durability/“escapability” transferred with him, as I believe we’ll have an extremely successful season, IF he remains on the field, throughout.

      #GOUTES!

    • #245013
      Utah5410
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      I do agree with many of these points. Health is always an issue for any team.

      But DD is not Risng (injury wise I mean), of course he could get hurt. But thus far he has not show me to be injury prone.

      Again, I think many of you undervalue how tough it is to win @ RES.

      ASU, TT, KSU, CU all come here.

      I could see us losing to Baylor, Kansas, and I’m sure one other road game.

      We are not losing to TDS This year. Bookmark that.

      I think 9-3 is very real.

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