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  • stbone replied to the topic Bag v Loyalty in the forum Football 6 months, 1 week ago

    We are watching numerous players acting like Dorian Singer at Arizona. The bag is tempting, but a starting spot that has you on track for the NFL is worth far more than any one or two year bag and the associated risks of transferring. Dorian Singer’s year chasing the bag in USC may end up costing him tens of millions in lifetime earnings.

  • My sentiments exactly proud Ute. Eagle have you seen the football and basketball facilities? University pocketing the money? The excess money has gone back to improving the facilities for the players for many years. I’m fine with paying the players but most athletic departments are losing money.

  • Utah5410 started the topic Bag v Loyalty in the forum Football 6 months, 1 week ago

    Any Prick. Yes I mean Calhoun who loves over the bag after utah turned him into something is exactly why we went 5-7 last year. Spencer Fano is going to be a 1st Rd NFL draft pick. Who will likely make tens of millions over a ten year period. Utah paid him but I am sure there are 20-30 other programs who could pay him more. But he stays why ?…[Read more]

  • If an employee of the University, couldn’t contracts be put in place (as with Coaches) the make it harder to switch teams?

  • AlohaUte replied to the topic Loyalty in the forum Football 6 months, 1 week ago

    I don’t disagree with your whole post, much I do agree with. But take a chill pill, we’ve had one bad year in 20. It shocks me how quickly Ute fans became like Ohio State fans.

  • I hate this argument so much. You act like the kids were slaves and got nothing out of it. I would have loved to have had free tuition, room and board, meals, prioritized housing, paid for tutoring, etc. Players who played at Duke or Stanford or any private school (and heck many top public schools now) made well over 100K to play football in just…[Read more]

  • This is the constant, I guess, shame or dilemma of sports. I mean Juan Soto just got $750m to play baseball. How perverse is that? Sports are important to our culture and society and they play a healthy role as a stress outlet for us. So they are not meaningless, but it is perverse that people are paid so much to do it. But that’s market…[Read more]

  • Makes sense. Thanks for the responses.

  • Most likely.

    Think of someone like LeBron James. He receives a salary as an employee of the Lakers, but he also gets paid by Nike and others for NIL/promotion/etc.

  • I know this is like a popular trend right now I just don’t see the point. We were fine with it 20-30 years ago when the University pocketed the money. What changed? A kid getting the money instead somehow makes it different?

    It just feels like virtue signaling at this point.

    I will always be fine with a kid getting his bag. I do agree with p…[Read more]

  • I know you are trying to make a moral point I just wonder why it didn’t exist 20 or 30 years ago when it was the school making the money on the bodies of kids?

    A claim to morals in a morally devoid industry never really never resonates for me.

  • I have been a huge college sports fan since I was a young kid. I loved the days when a young man stayed all four years at a school, i.e., Van Horn, Doleac, Miller, Jensen, Weddle, Moss, et al. You get to know the players and become big fans of them.

    The NIL and portal have killed that. Now the best teams will be those with the richest donors…[Read more]

  • Thanks for the reply but not sure it answers my questions.

    To be brief – can players still accept NIL money once they are considered employees of the University?

  • J Rocksville replied to the topic Devon Dampier in the forum Football 6 months, 1 week ago

    Seems a little small, but you can’t argue with his results last year. With a better O-line and potentially more talent around him (potentially is the key word here), you’d hope he’d continue to grow as a passer and rely less on his legs. I think 3k yards passing at a 60-65% clip and 500 running puts him right on par with the QB that won two P12…[Read more]

  • Thanks, Jim. Nice post.

    From time to time, I need to sit back and realize how blessed I am. This past football season was painful for me. But I hurt for those people in the hills of North Carolina who lost so much in the hurricane, and now snow and bad weather.

  • All true Utah. The one exception is most colleges are public institutions. They are there to provide our kids with an education and life changing experience. College sports provide scholarships and activities for students. Alumni and fans buy tickets and gear to support the sports programs and the university. How many professors make 1-8 million a…[Read more]

  • AlohaUte replied to the topic Devon Dampier in the forum Football 6 months, 1 week ago

    I’m sure it helps that we have his coach and they seemed to succeed from each other, but we’ll still need to offer some major NIL money, especially if the demand for him is such as it seems to be. We are not guaranteed to get him by any means.

  • EagleMountainUte replied to the topic Devon Dampier in the forum Football 6 months, 1 week ago

    It is really hard to not overlook his rushing numbers. I also think UNM did no favors to Dampier. I think it partially explains the TD/INT ratio.

  • Replaceable. Calhoun still has a lot of work to do to be NFL ready. Basically signed up for the Utah DB training camp and bailed for the bag. Until there’s contracts, programs at different levels are the training ground for Billionaire programs. The these are “just kids” nonsense needs to stop. KW and the other whiney, overpaid coaches compl…[Read more]

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