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  • #139638
    Anfernee
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    The poor optics is our wr production year after year. The poor optics is RARELY getting a high level wr recruit and the reputation associated with our passing game. Nothing changes if nothing changes. 

    Anonymous
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    The local football talent here in Utah really is amazing. Alternatively, the basketball talent is very poor.

    NFL:

    Penei Sewell – 2021 Top 5 Pick
    Zach Wilson – 2021 Top 5 Pick

    Cody Barton
    Jackson Barton
    Julian Blackmon
    Garett Bolles
    Leki Fotu
    Chase Hansen
    Nate Orchard
    John Penisini

    Jamaal Williams
    Harvey Langi

    Tyler Larsen
    Patrick Scales
    Nick Vigil

    Kaden Ellis
    Alohi Gilman
    Porter Gustin
    Andre James
    Marcus Kemp
    Bryan Mone
    Dalton Shultz
    Xavier Sua-Filo
    N0ah T0g1a1

    NBA:

    Frank Jackson

    ??? Anyone else? David Stockton? Does he count?

    I understand that NFL rosters have 5x more openings, but that means there should be at least 5 or 6 NBA players from local high schools given there are at least 25 NFL players from local high schools. I’m probably missing several.

    A lot of high NFL draft picks from local high schools, this year two in the top 5, maybe even top 3. Good grief.

    Looking at it another way:

    Utah’s population is about 1% of the US population. There are 450 roster spots in the NBA, if Utah high schools had average basketball talent we’d see 4-5 players from Utah high schools in the NBA at any given time.

    Is that the case? Not even close. Frank Jackson is barely on a roster. Anyone else? Anyone else in the last 10 years?? Collinsworth for a few games?

    There are 1700 roster spots in the NFL. If Utah high schools had average football talent we’d see about 17 players in the NFL at any given time. There are 25 in the NFL.

    Utah high school basketball talent is 20% of average. Utah high school football is 150% of average.

    Utah Mr Basketball Award Winners:

    Each year the Utah Mr. Basketball award is given to the person chosen as the best high school boys basketball player in the U.S. state of Utah, in the United States. Class 5A was introduced in 1994. The award has been given since 1987 by the Deseret Morning News. Winners are chosen by the Utah Associated Press Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association (UAPSSA).

    The award dates back to 1988, there’s only ONE player who was a routine starter in the NBA. Shawn Bradley. Not exactly a stud. Most of the list is players who were below average college players.

    I can’t find a list of Utah Mr Football Award winners, it would be interesting to look at, I’d bet we see a lot of NFL players.

    Majerus’ run was made possible by some solid local players he didn’t have to work to get. When he took over, he walked right into Josh Grant, who was better than any local high school prospect since then. Johnsen brothers and many other local talents were also a huge part of Majerus’ success.

    Jerry Pimm had Tom Chambers and Danny Vranes. Two local players who were both NBA starters.

    It’s not that Giac, Boylen, and Larry have ignored local talent in favor of elsewhere, it just isn’t here anymore, it ran dry a long time ago.

    Some names in the Top 25 scoring leaders in Utah high school bball:

    Jaxon
    Talon
    Rad
    Mason
    Collin
    Kelby
    Lander
    Ryder
    Trei
    Krue
    Britton
    Brash
    Race
    Nico
    Treven
    Treyton
    Ridge
    Jaxton
    Rexton

    Just for comparison, here are the names of Gonzaga’s local high school players from Washington and Oregon, the low hanging fruit Mark Few is picking:

    Matthew
    Corey
    Evan
    Ben
    Dominick
    Will

    Just sayin.

    Local talent during our glory years:

    Tom
    Jeff
    Danny
    Ben
    Mark
    Drew

    Just sayin.

    Folks expecting ncaa tourney invites when our local recruiting pool is full of Talon, Rad, Cutter, and a million spellings of Jaxon, get real, let’s be real here.

    AlohaUte
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    Is Dixie State associated with the University of Utah or Utah State University systems?  Or neither and stands on it’s own?

    #131192

    In reply to: Top Secret Info.

    KoolWhitt
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    HIPAA pertains only to specific covered entities and business associates of covered entities. It does not apply here. 

    My guess is that this is simply a gesture to keep Covid issues consistent with normal team protocols regarding injuries, i.e. we don’t discuss the physical status of any player unless an ailment is season-ending.

    #130747
    UtMtBiker
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    Even more notorious once she’s forever associated with the sham that sparked an over haul of the entire federal court system. With The House and Senate, and a Dem in the White House they’ll do it. Trump has f**ked the entire party, and they deserve it for hitching up go that s**t wagon.

    #128160

    In reply to: Back to school

    gUrthBrooks
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    Bull s**t. The numbers show the same heart issues rates associated with the common cold and flu.

    #128157

    In reply to: Back to school

    GameForAnyFuss
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    Survival can’t be the only metric we use to assess the risk with this thing. There’s growing evidence of heart disease and blood clots associated with COVID. If it’s a high percentage and causes permanent damage, that’s game-changing from the standpoint of severity.

    Utesbyfive
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    Yeah, what’s your point? Life cannot stop because of this. We have to get back to work. The government can’t continue to print money to keep us isolated. We are all just going to have to accept whatever risks are associated. We have no choice.

    #127811

    Chicago Bulls Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations Arturas Karnisovas announced Friday that Jim Boylen has been relieved of his duties as head coach.

    Boylen first came to Chicago as an associate head coach during the 2015-16 season and was named the team’s 23rd head coach on Dec. 3, 2018. During his time at the helm of the Bulls, he compiled an overall record of 39-84 (.317).

    nba.com article

    #127685
    GameForAnyFuss
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    The other thing you have to consider is the reward associated with the risk. For example, we all take a risk every time we get into a car. But most of us conclude that the risk is worth the reward, so we go anyway.

    What’s the risk/reward calculation for going ahead with college football during this pandemic? The risk of catching an illness that carries with it a good chance of getting myocarditis, and the reward is…giving a bunch of men something to watch on a Saturday?

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