Update from Wetzel on Big10


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        Ghost of the HEB
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        ProudUte
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        @proudute

        I like the idea of the PAC12 and Big10 working out a scheduling agreement.

        The PAC12 needs to remain aggressive in all of this or risk being left behind IMO.  I am not sure what the answer is.  But, I think we are headed to four 16 team super conferences.  We may need to expand by four teams.  Schools I would consider are:

        Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, Houston, OK State, SDSU, Nebraska, KState, and possibly Kansas because of basketball.  I doubt Nebraska would make the move.  I’m fine with four super conferences as long as we are in the mix.

        Go Utes!!!

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          RedRocks
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          @hypodactylus

          To be honest, most of those teams you list probably don’t appeal very much to the PAC12 member schools.

          The SEC is interested in adding UT and OU because they will increase the value of the conference. 

          I am not really convinced that any of those schools listed will do that for the PAC12; whether it is money, recruiting, market exposure, viewership, or academics. Also, why would Nebraska leave the B1G?

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          Charlie
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          @charlie

          I expect that the Big10 and Pac-12 recognize that it is important for the two to work together in the current environment where trust issues are becoming a problem. Their unique history including the Rose Bowl is already unlike any other in college football. With that, I expect that there will not be consideration by either for the other’s schools. Hopefully, the two will complete a scheduling agreement for non conference games.

          If the playoff structure for football valued only quality wins (P5) as opposed to number of wins over any quality of opponents, Notre Dame would need to join a conference for scheduling reasons. If they became a candidate for inclusion, the Pac would develop a lot if interest in expansion. Otherwise, I don’t see a factor that pushes the Pac to look for additional schools. Other schools that want in have a road to go down.

          If the playoff structure for football simply guaranteed a spot for P5 conference champions, I think we would see an end to the strong interest to grow the size of conferences.

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            MDUte
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            @mdute

            A scheduling agreement between the PAC/B1G would be great but I’d prefer it to go further than that. Reason being that if we locked into a new 24 team conference with the B1G that included 4 6-team divisions spanning the East coast to the West Coast, it would do 2 things. 1) secure our future as part of the highest level of CFB; 2) it would dramatically fix our revenue issues going forward.

            Fox would likely be the Media rights partner (as the competitor to ESPN controlling the SEC super conference) and this new conference would demand top dollar for sure. Big caveat here…it would have to be a 24 team mega conference, otherwise Utah is at risk of not being included.

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              CB_Ute [Execute Podcast]
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              @solidhobo

              100% agree with you MDUte

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              RedRocks
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              @hypodactylus

              P12 + B1G ≠ 24 teams. The B1G has 14 members; the P12, well 12.

              14 + 12 = 26
              Who gets left/kicked out?

              I don’t think there is much precedent for kicking a school out of the conference. If they were to reorganize into a new conference or merge into one, I am not sure that Utah would be in the best position…

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                MDUte
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                @mdute

                I’m using the model posted yesterday on a similar topic. This would exclude the 3 PAC schools that are non AAU accredited (ASU, WSU, and OSU) and would add Kansas.

                Big 10 East

                OSU, Mich, MSU, PSU, Maryland, Rutgers

                Big 10 North

                Wisc, Minn, NW, Illinois, Purdue, IU

                Big 10 South

                Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Kansas

                Big 10 West

                Wash, Oregon, Cal, USC, UCLA, Stanford

                CCG would be the Rose Bowl keeping with tradition

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