Duhwayne
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
I understand perfectly well how BAC works. By your own admission you hadn’t read the law so maybe just maybe YOU ought the bread it prior to spouting off. Btw you did a magnificent job of hijacking the thread.
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic BYU basketball player Zac Seljaas comes home early from his mission in the forum They So Poo Poo 8 years, 4 months ago
There’s been more then one kid whom has been injured, sick whatever thst have come home early and coincidentally have also been good ball players AND their early return has coincided with a need on a particular team. Hence the skepticism
The only time I have interest in them is the week they are out opponent the only time I notice anything…[Read more]
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Yeah. What was. Thinking expecting elected officials to represent the people Stupid me. Oh well
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic maybe the homeless shelter should be in Draper in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Agreed it had been and not one of them will say that
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic maybe the homeless shelter should be in Draper in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
One would think that caveat about cities not being able to do anything about was put in there knowing/suspecting that SLCo would likely choose south salt lake or WVC and logistically they likely make sense but if SLCo had said hey let’s spread this out to Herriman or Draper or riverton et al they’d already be calling the special session to repeal the law
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Thanks. Would have taken forever to find and read on my phone screen so maybe the answer is to make it national and try these cases as enhances felonies?
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
And those are the kind of penalties we need and should have for drunk drivers. I’ve seen so many repeat offenders whom get s slap on the wrist. If they are willing to chance driving when they’ve had ten beers are they going to change their behavior and choices because the BAC was lowered? Statistics tells us no they aren’t
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
A laudable goal but is an estimation I would like to know what they modeled it on etc
And for the record I am against drinking and driving I don’t support the law here in Utah because it appears it was done to punish those thst imbibe responsibly for their vocal and constant opposition to the Zion Curtsin. They raised the markup to 88% for…[Read more]
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Someone that gets it. Well stated
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Very valid points enforcement is a logistical nightmare for the law. Really about the only thing it seems to be good for is IF you are in a collision and can subpoena the phone records to prove a driver was texting and driving at the exact moment the collision occurred
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
D wth reduction and the other losses you mention are one of Thurston’s stated goals there’s scent empirical evidence to support his theory Again IF the proposed limit would reduce fatalities injuries etc that would be one thing. In this state a law like this only has one intent. To demonize and vilify those that choose to drink responsibly…[Read more]
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Again IF the proposed limit would reduce fatalities injuries etc that would be one thing. In this state a law like this only has one intent. To demonize and vilify those that choose to drink responsibly
Under this standard a person who weighs 120 lbs would be legally “drunk” even though they show minimal or no evidence of impairment
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Again IF the proposed limit would reduce fatalities injuries etc they would be one thing. In this state a law like this only has one intent. To feminize and vilify those that choose to drink responsibly
Under this standard a person who weighs 120 lbs would be legally “drunk” even though they show minimal or no evidence of impairment
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
The problem is lack of enforcement I’ve passed legislators that were texting and driving AFTER the law was passed. You’d think with their special license plates they’d be smarter than that
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Our own university has studied this and drivers texting are just S impaired as somebody driving at 0.08. Yet I see people here texting and driving at 80 mph on a regular basis.
Show us the numbers on collisions and injuries related to the levels you cited.
0.05 is nothing more than feel good legislation that was passed due to the pressure to…[Read more]
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
Show us the data that supports lowering it to 0.05 will reduce deaths correlated with Intoxicated drivers. Comparing Utah to European nations that have dropped the limit isn’t a accurate comparison. Europeans teach their children at a young age about appropriate use of alcohol in Utah it’s demonized the European nations also mandatory minimum…[Read more]
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
@utethunder You shouldn’t assume. This law is nothing more than trying to punish Drinkers and enforce certain cultural “norms” on people thst don’t toe the line in Utsh.
Other than casting the final vote Utsh has a long history of trying to shame and punish people whom want nothing more than be adults
Show me some empirical evidence that…[Read more]
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PorterRockwell replied to the topic I'd like to know whom the groups are in D.C. that would sue the state over 0.05 in the forum Politics 8 years, 4 months ago
You shouldn’t assume. This law is nothing more than trying to punish Drinkers and enforce certain cultural “norms” on people thst don’t toe the line in Utsh.
Other than casting the final vote Utsh has a long history of trying to shame and punish people whom want nothing more than be adults
Show me some empirical evidence that refutes the…[Read more]
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