Stone

  • Stone replied to the topic Cam Rising Medically Retires in the forum Football 7 days ago

    My thoughts exactly. I mean, was the initial diagnosis really that far off? Whit was repeatedly saying Cam was game-time decision and “could have played” in multiple games almost immediately after the injury. So, again, we are left wondering whether: (a) the initial diagnosis was way wrong, (b) everyone knew it was really bad, and Whit was playing…[Read more]

  • Seriously! Can you believe those crazy people at TDS doing…. exactly what every other school in college sports is doing. You are living in a bubble if you think this is something exclusive to BYU. Perhaps you live in Utah and do not see that literally every school (including UTAH) are buying recruits as best they can.

    Look, I am not a fan of…[Read more]

  • Stone replied to the topic Jimmy Soto in the forum Basketball (Men) 3 months ago

    Not an answer to your questions, and I am by no means perfect with language, but the habit of so many to end statements with “right” is something I also find really annoying.

  • I appreciate the response. Those are all decent points that show some overlap in merchandise, but I still don’t agree that a trademark can be that broad. One is primarily a professional hockey team, that happens to sell some related merchandise. The other is primarily a cooler company, that happens to sell some related merchandise.

    If the cooler…[Read more]

  • I am not a trademark attorney, but I do not understand how a cooler company named Yeti can block a hockey team named Yeti. Two completely different contexts. Trademarks are not supposed to be universal in every context, especially with a non unique name. The cooler company did not invent the name “yeti” – it is the name of a mythical creature. It…[Read more]

  • Stone replied to the topic Tanuvasa to TDS in the forum They So Poo Poo 4 months ago

    I am not defending NIL. I am saying that if we are going to have NIL (which we do) and there is no real structure, complaining about tampering is whiney. NIL is officially sponsorship money. Sponsors are not subject to rules about talking to people. If Ken Garff Auto Mall wants to talk to a player at another school and offer him sponsor money if…[Read more]

  • Stone replied to the topic Tanuvasa to TDS in the forum They So Poo Poo 4 months ago

    I find the “tampering” cries to be whiney sore loser cries. Now that the NIL floodgates are open, it seems hyper-technical and silly to create some arbitrary boundary as to when an individual is allowed to talk to another individual. I question whether such a rule is even enforceable.

    NIL is a free for all at this point. If a player gets offered…[Read more]

  • Stone replied to the topic Tanuvasa to TDS in the forum They So Poo Poo 4 months ago

    Completely agree. Everyone is doing this – including Utah. The cries about tampering seem whiney to me. Sign players to NIL deals or don’t. Whining about whether there was tampering is asinine.

  • Stone replied to the topic Tanuvasa to TDS in the forum They So Poo Poo 4 months ago

    I keep hearing references to “tampering” – what even does that mean? And who really cares? It seems so trivial to concern oneself with such an arbitrary rule (to the extent there even is one). Is the NCAA actually enforcing some rules about tampering? Does the NCAA even really exist as an entity anymore in the NIL college football landscape? This…[Read more]

  • Stone replied to the topic NIL and university employment in the forum Football 5 months ago

    There was another thread last week about what NIL (name, image, likeness) is supposed to be and what it has become. But worth revisiting how bizarre the NIL world has become. Almost none of the players receiving NIL money have any actual NIL market value, if there was a real NIL market. That is, there are practically zero players that provide a…[Read more]

  • I am dense, so please explain this. Wouldn’t there still be roughly the same number of players seeking roughly the same number of opportunities? I can understand that some lower level schools are getting people dropping down from higher level schools, and there are of course players at lower level schools getting spots at higher level schools.…[Read more]

  • Stone replied to the topic Hunter Clegg flips to BYU in the forum Football 5 months ago

    “legally off limits” – there is no such thing anymore (if there ever really was). Every team that wants a recruit continues to recruit him on a mission. Hell, teams recruit players that are actively playing for another team. It doesn’t matter. It is pointless to complain about such stuff – if a player wants to go somewhere else, they will go…[Read more]

  • It is not just a old white religious guy thing. There are credible arguments to restrict it that have nothing to do with one’s skin pigmentation, age, or religion.

    Anecdotally, I have seen it mess up multiple people. But I have seen it do nothing negative to others. My point is there are definitely potential negative consequences to it. And not…[Read more]

  • Stone replied to the topic THINK ABOUT THIS …. in the forum Football 5 months ago

    Tampering? I am sorry, but the semblance of any structure or rules to transfers and NIL is nearly nonexistent. It is naive to think there is any real boundary at this point. The NCAA has no control over it. Players and teams can talk to whomever they want whenever they want.

    If a kid goes to another school, it is going to happen. Who cares when…[Read more]

  • There is no going back. Frankly, the idea of investors purchasing teams is probably the best path forward, if it leads to a super-conference that is NFL-lite.

  • Stone replied to the topic Loyalty in the forum Football 5 months ago

    Same here (regarding MLB)! I used to scour over the box scores in the newspaper, knew stats of many players, watched the standings and games religiously. Then free agency happened. Then the strike happened. Then my interest died, almost completely. Maybe it was for the best, as I devoted way too much time to it.

    The same has happened to me with…[Read more]

  • Stone replied to the topic Loyalty in the forum Football 5 months ago

    I think the only hope is for a super-conference to form that becomes a de facto professional league. It would then have some rules about contracts, salaries, etc. The current model is wholly unsustainable. NIL is the death of college football as we knew it…hopefully, it is not the death of college football altogether.

  • Yes, I fear your feelings are shared by many (including me). If things are not reigned-in in a balanced way, I think a lot of fans are going to turn the whole thing off.

  • Agreed. NIL is the wild west. There are no real rules. It is a mess, and it is going to kill the sport. The beauty of college football (in my opinion) has been getting to know the players, see them develop, and cheer for the alma mater. I liked that the players were trying to play their way to the next level and a paycheck.

    I LOVED Utah…[Read more]

  • I am a Utah fan. Have been my whole life–including many rough decades. Also, I am not a fan of NIL. I am not a defender of the system. Just a defender of fairness within the system (despite its flaws).

    My gripe is people calling out another school for doing the very thing our school is doing (and, frankly, wish we could do better).

    Yes, BYU…[Read more]

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