This doesnt sound good for anyone involved. RE: Retzlaff

This topic has 33 replies, 21 voices, and was last updated 15 hours, 4 minutes ago by TheNuschler.

Viewing 14 reply threads

Author

Posts
- 05/21/2025 at 1:54 PM #244012
  4
  
  Ute Dub
  Participant
  
  I won’t judge until the evidence is clear but damn, not the situation anyone wants to be in on either side.
  Retzlaff rape accusations
- 05/21/2025 at 2:06 PM #244013
  5 1
  
  AZUTE
  Participant
  
  Big first test for new AD and total scumbag Santiago.
  
  My guess he’s already contacted multiple donors who will pay this girl off and it will all just magically go away.
  
  Losing Rat would destroy any chance they have of competing in the big12 this season. Santiago and his Whales won’t let it happen.
  
  But what about the Honor code and the whole no sex before marriage thing????
  
  The honor code for athletes doesn’t exist anymore at BYU. It’s not even a thing.
  
  Jake will be the starting QB game 1 and this won’t even get a mention.
  
  Count on it.
  - 05/21/2025 at 2:46 PM #244017
    10
    
    Ute Dub
    Participant
    
    Maybe a dumb question but why is it a civil case and not criminal? Do they not have enough evidence?
    
    Also, is raping someone against the honor code?
    - 05/21/2025 at 2:50 PM #244018
      1
      
      NarfUte
      Participant
      
      I think part of her claim is that Provo PD suppressed the evidence. If they did, it will come out in discovery and they very well could be filing criminal charges in the future (Hopefully it’s all not true)
    - 05/21/2025 at 3:51 PM #244025
      
      Xtreme Ute
      Participant
      
      ,
    - 05/22/2025 at 2:54 AM #244039
      1
      
      Central Coast Ute
      Participant
      
      You answered your own question as far as the criminal aspect is concerned. No district attorney in the land would touch this. It would be very hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. To be fair, rape often is. He said she said cases are very difficult to convince a jury.
  - 05/21/2025 at 4:40 PM #244031
    1
    
    Kellso
    Participant
    
    I don’t know Santiago. I’m curious why so much negativity towards him? I haven’t heard anything good about him, just negative.
- 05/21/2025 at 2:16 PM #244014
  2
  
  NarfUte
  Participant
  
  Obviously hopefully the allegations aren’t truthful. If it were ‘drunk and consensual’ and public like this, 15 years ago BYU would have kicked him off the team. Let’s see what they do now…
- 05/21/2025 at 2:20 PM #244015
  3
  
  RoboUte
  Participant
  
  “The woman, identified in a 3rd District Court filing as Jane Doe A.G”
  
  If they don’t even put her name how is BYU supposed to expel her?
  - 05/21/2025 at 3:01 PM #244021
    8
    
    AZUTE
    Participant
    
    If they identify her publicly she’ll be ripped to shreds by every Zoob and their dog.
    - 05/21/2025 at 4:29 PM #244029
      
      RoboUte
      Participant
      
      That’s crazy because the BYU fans are telling me she has nothing to worry about. They’re completely sure of it, in fact.
- 05/21/2025 at 3:01 PM #244022
  2 1
  
  highlandute7
  Participant
  
  Sexual assault or rape? Article states he is accused of sexual assault, not rape.
  - 05/21/2025 at 3:28 PM #244023
    1
    
    Ute Dub
    Participant
    
    What does this mean? “ The woman said she told Retzlaff “stop” and “no” as he was grabbing a condom, but alleges in the lawsuit that he did not stop and had sex with her.”
    - 05/21/2025 at 3:45 PM #244024
      2 4
      
      highlandute7
      Participant
      
      I am just pointing out that the article says he is accused of sexual assault, not rape. They are different. Not trying to argue. I guess rape charges could eventually be added but my guess is that will depend on the evidence.
      
      “BYU football quarterback Jake Retzlaff has been accused of sexual assault in a civil lawsuit.”
  - 05/21/2025 at 4:06 PM #244026
    8
    
    NarfUte
    Participant
    
    It’s a civil suit- rape is classified as sexual assault in civil suits.
    
    So far Provo AG hasn’t filed charges for a criminal case (which could be rape), but you have to think they’re triple checking what the officer knew 18 months ago
    - 05/21/2025 at 4:33 PM #244030
      2
      
      RoboUte
      Participant
      
      Those case files right about now
  - 05/22/2025 at 2:55 AM #244040
    3
    
    Central Coast Ute
    Participant
    
    Not all sexual assault is rape, but all rape is sexual assault.
- 05/21/2025 at 4:09 PM #244027
  5 1
  
  Tony (admin)
  Keymaster
  
  Soaking gone wrong. Maybe the shaker can provide eyewitness testimony.
- 05/21/2025 at 4:27 PM #244028
  4
  
  ALUF
  Participant
  
  Sad all around no matter how this ends.
- 05/21/2025 at 6:21 PM #244032
  4
  
  ProudUte
  Participant
  
  CB, as you would expect, is in an uproar. Many on the CB like to make excuses for everything bad that happens. The link below is a new low. even the CB.
  
  It’s Utah’s fault
  
  As many of you have mentioned – it is sad for all involved, and there are no winners.
  - 05/21/2025 at 6:57 PM #244033
    10
    
    RoboUte
    Participant
    
    I still don’t entirely understand how so many of them are very clearly mentally ill.
  - 05/21/2025 at 7:10 PM #244034
    3
    
    The Miami Ute
    Participant
    
    Being honest though, there are more than a few posters calling BS on that narrative, In addition, the original post has twice as many down votes than thumbs up.
    - 05/21/2025 at 8:56 PM #244037
      3
      
      beaslad
      Participant
      
      To be honest, the ratio of calling it out vs agreeing is like 1:4 now.
  - 05/22/2025 at 3:06 PM #244066
    
    TheNuschler
    Participant
    
    It’s been a few years since I looked over the CB. I’ve located all the Provo Incel’s….. no doubt.
- 05/21/2025 at 7:20 PM #244035
  3 3
  
  chinngiskhaan
  Participant
  
  Can we please not do the zoob thing and say, “see everyone! This is WHO THEY ARE!!!”
  
  Just let this play out. We don’t know what the truth is.
- 05/21/2025 at 7:32 PM #244036
  4 1
  
  Larry B
  Participant
  
  Until someone posts this story in all caps with a bunch of spelling and grammatical errors, I’m going to say it’s fake news.
  - 05/22/2025 at 12:00 PM #244054
    2
    
    RoboUte
    Participant
    
    Caliman is being summoned. Call every swig in Provo. I want him found!
- 05/21/2025 at 9:32 PM #244038
  4
  
  UteFan Vineyard
  Participant
  
  I hope it’s not true. Retzlaff seems like a decent person.
  
  Unfortunately, even if he’s proven innocent, he’ll often be thought of in conjunction with this situation instead of just for his football skills.
- 05/22/2025 at 5:09 AM #244044
  4
  
  Utes 69
  Participant
  
  welp, there goes the Heisman trophy !!
- 05/22/2025 at 8:09 AM #244048
  3
  
  Tony (admin)
  Keymaster
  
  The new play for byu is a quarterback soak. Sorry, couldn’t resist. But seriously… what college football QB doesn’t get laid.
  - 05/22/2025 at 8:33 AM #244049
    4
    
    Jim Vanderhoof
    Participant
    
    Tony I think the core of the problem is putting religious shame on women for having normal desires. Resulting in guilt and shame after the fact. No means no reguardless of religion or any other excuse. It’s a no win situation for everyone involved and Utah State has had the same issues in the past. Utah State got mocked for addressing the problem in a team meeting with police officer and coaches. This could have some backlash on recruiting non LDS players.
- 05/22/2025 at 10:45 AM #244051
  2
  
  stbone
  Participant
  
  Quarterback soak is hard to execute well, and it requires crowd participation. No player motion before the snap, but you get pre-snap tight end motion by the fans jumping in the stands.
  - 05/22/2025 at 12:01 PM #244055
    2
    
    RoboUte
    Participant
    
    “it requires crowd participation”
    
    oh they’re freaky then
- 05/22/2025 at 11:41 AM #244053
  2
  
  TX_UTE
  Participant
  
  Agree, sad story all around.
Author

Posts