Is it time to retire the Ute name?


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    • #124848
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      MDUte
      Ute Fan
      @mdute

      With all of the recent push to root out racially insensitive mascots in College sports, is now the time to finally transition away from Utes to Red-tailed Hawks? Looks like Illinois is feeling the pressure: https://footballscoop.com/news/could-we-be-on-the-verge-of-a-big-ten-program-changing-their-mascot/

      I realize we have the consent/support of the Ute tribe but wondering if that will continue to be enough. I’m curious…How does everyone feel about being called the Utah RedHawks or Utah Red-tailed Hawks or just Utah Hawks??

      Even though, I was born and raised in SLC and have always loved being called the Utes, I have to admit I get tired of people outside of Utah always asking me, “What is a Ute?” Perhaps a change could be cool not to mention an opportunity for the Athletic Department to bring in a lot of revenue with a rebranding and new gear purchases??

    • #124850
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      EagleMountainUte
      Ute Fan
      @battlegroundute

      How I see it:

      I will always call them the Utah Utes. And wear the appropriate colors and logo.

      I will never buy anything or donate to the school again if they change the name. Other than my tax dollars of course. 

      • #124853
        2 10

        MDUte
        Ute Fan
        @mdute

        Just playing devil’s advocate…the school has already changed their name before. We used to be the Utah Redskins before we moved to the Utah Utes. The school colors will always stay the same regardless of what name we go by. And we replaced the Warrior mascot back in 1996 to Swoop (red-tailed hawk) in preparation for a potential rebranding. 

        I’m not saying I’m in favor of retiring the Ute name. Nobody likes change. But given the current social climate, I’m wondering if it’s inevitable. And if so, maybe it could be a positive. 

        • #124857
          10 1

          EagleMountainUte
          Ute Fan
          @battlegroundute

          We should rename rivers and lakes that have tribal names next. Really take it to the max eliminate it all. 

          • #124860
            6

            Central Coast Ute
            Ute Fan
            @flip2848

            Don’t forget, the Dakotas gotta go. Same with Utah and Oklahoma among others.

      • #124869
        6 4

        Pace Manyung
        Ute Fan
        @a2ute

        You must be saving tens of thousands of dollars boycotting things…. lol

    • #124852
      2 3

      PhiladelphiaUte
      Ute Fan
      @philadelphiaute

      Big fat “NO” on the Redtail Hawks! However, if Utah MUST change our mascot, I believe the best possible mascots for us would be either the “Jutes” (pronounced “Utes”) — a medieval Germanic tribe originating from the Jutland peninsula who’d rivaled the Anglos and the Saxons of their day — which would permit us to continue with the phoenic alliteration, and we wouldn’t even have to rebrand the Drum & Feather…

      …or the “Utah Raptor”, which WOULD require rebranding (although not the interlocking U), but would still be pretty badass, as it hailed from this part of world during back during the early Cretaceous period.

      Utah shouldn’t even be using that hawk right now. It looks like an ugly chicken on steroids.

      GO UTES!!!

      (or “Jutes”, or “Utah Raptors”, or whatever we’ll be in the years to come)

      • #124854
        7 4

        MDUte
        Ute Fan
        @mdute

        Cool idea of the Utah Raptors…that would be a pretty badass mascot!

         

         

        • #124863
          5 1

          UteThunder
          Ute Fan
          @utethunder

          I don’t know anyone who thinks the Toronto Raptors have a “badass” mascot.

    • #124855
      22 1

      Tony
      Admin/Founder
      @admin

      If the PC police force us to change the Ute name, they’ll have to change the name of the STATE too. UTAH.  This discussion pops up every year and the Ute tribe agrees that they love the U honoring their name.  

      • #124856
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        UteBacker
        Ute Fan
        @utebacker

        Agreed, Tony.  As long as The University of Utah is using the name respectfully and as long as the Ute tribe is benefitting through exposure, scholarships and still feel like they are being honored with having their name used, then that should be the end of the story.  The second THEY tell us to stop using it, then it’s time to have a new school mascot contest.

      • #124909
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        dystopiamembrane
        Ute Fan
        @dystopiamembrane

        “Notably, the University does not have permission from the Southern Ute Indian Tribe/Reservation in Southwest Colorado or the Ute Mountain Tribe/Reservation.”
        Utes Nickname Project, FAQ

    • #124859
      11

      Central Coast Ute
      Ute Fan
      @flip2848

      Should the Minnesota Vikings change their name? I come from Danish decent and am not offended by it at all. I have yet to meet an Irish person that finds the Fighting Irish offensive. If anything that is more offensive by insinuating that Irish people are just drunks that like to start fights. What about the Celtics? 49ers? Buccaneers? I can keep going but it’s no use.

      How is it racially insensitive to have the Ute name exactly?

      • #124864
        11

        KJU
        Ute Fan
        @kjute

        It’s not your decision or the tribes decision what is racist. That is the job of lawyers back east wearing tight jeans and pointy shoes.

        • #124867
          2

          UteBacker
          Ute Fan
          @utebacker

          Haha….right. It’s up to those people that are offended on behalf of the Ute tribe.

        • #124885
          2

          Central Coast Ute
          Ute Fan
          @flip2848

          Good point KJU. I should have known better.

      • #124868
        5 5

        SkinyUte
        Ute Fan
        @skinyute

        “X doesn’t offend me, therefore Y shouldn’t offend anyone else” is a bit of an odd argument.

         

        I tend to agree with others, that as long as the tribe is good with it, then I am too.  The moment they decide otherwise, then it should change.

        • #124878
          5

          EagleMountainUte
          Ute Fan
          @battlegroundute

          Where does it say your right to not be offended overrides my right to be offensive? Who determines what is offensive?  Certainly at least one Ute tribal member is offended. If you want to eliminate everything offensive you wouldn’t have free thought or liberalism of any kind. 

        • #124894
          3

          Central Coast Ute
          Ute Fan
          @flip2848

          Intent behind something is huge. People get offended over anything today in order to prove a point. Just because someone is offended doesn’t mean it’s offensive.

      • #124877
        7 2

        Pace Manyung
        Ute Fan
        @a2ute

        possibly the most racist mascot…. the fighting Irish.

         

        you know, the drunkn, orange-haired mutton chopped mascot  

        • #124886
          2 1

          Central Coast Ute
          Ute Fan
          @flip2848

          Exactly. But you don’t hear any Irish people bitching. Let alone others who aren’t Irish bitching for them.

    • #124873
      7

      Dwight89
      Ute Fan
      @jordan-buckner

      I think the biggest factor that people always forget is that “ute” isn’t a term white folks made up to identify native americans by. It is also not a derogatory slang meant to poke fun or offend a group of people. It is quite literally the name of one of the main native american tribes that settled and lived in what is no known as Utah. Nothing more. Nothing less. 

      There literally isn’t anything to get offended about over the term “Ute”. it would be like someone from Manhattan being offended at being called a “New Yorker”. 

       

      • #124893
        1

        Sanders
        Ute Fan
        @sanders

        I could live with the name, Utah Hellhounds.

    • #124902
      2

      Brettski
      Ute Fan
      @brettski

      What is this crap?

    • #124905
      2

      RiseasUtes
      Ute Fan
      @riseasutes

      No, it isn’t time.

    • #124908

      dystopiamembrane
      Ute Fan
      @dystopiamembrane

      Anyone remember Hoyo?

    • #124910

      dystopiamembrane
      Ute Fan
      @dystopiamembrane

      I hope everyone has a great day.

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