So how is this going to work…


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      @a2ute

      Let’s be honest, the chances of getting a couple of games in this Fall is slim.

      I would assume the NCAA will grant  all players an additional year of eligibility – so what does this do for recruiting numbers? Will programs be able to expand the number of scholarships (like the old days)?

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      Distantute
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      @distantute

      I dont see football not happening… as much as the libs/orange bad man haters wish for that scenario. The data doesnt support cancellation.

      • #126970
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        @a2ute

        Alien DNA and demon sex just might be the answer…

        • #126971
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          beaslad
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          @beaslad

          When is demon sex NOT the answer?

        • #127087
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          Johnny
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          @johnny

          Not sure how this clown maintains his visibility. I thought I blocked his dumbass. 

          • #127091
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            Central Coast Ute
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            @flip2848

            He was just suspended so it probably just popped back up because you have Pace blocked, not suspended user.

      • #126973
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        Dwight89
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        @jordan-buckner

        Yeah we’ve got to stop with this us/them mentality. I’m a pretty liberal person, and am in many anti-Trump circles, and i can tell you that I have never once heard or seen someone say that they hope football gets cancelled so that it hurts Trump. 

        No one wants football to be cancelled. Just stop. 

        • #126974
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          UteThunder
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          @utethunder

          When you have people like Bill Maher openly hoping for a recession to keep Trump from getting re-elected, it’s not a stretch to believe there might be people out there hoping for football (and all sports for that matter) to be cancelled/postponed until after the election in hopes of hurting his re-election bid.

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            SkinyUte
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            @skinyute

            Bill Maher speaks for all liberals the same way Rush Limbaugh speaks for all conservatives.  The hardest of the hardcore will buy into it, but everyone just points and laughs.

             

            Hell, I’m the libbiest lib that every libbed, and even I think Maher is an ignorant moron who just says stuff to get reactions.

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              utefansince79
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              @utefansince79

              I’m quite liberal (especially for a Utah resident) but stopped watching Bill Maher’s show years ago.  His guest panels would usually include one conservative guest but then he would not give them a chance to present their viewpoint with Bill continuously interupting them mid-sentence.

              And indeed his over the top style was similiar to Rush.

               

          • #126979
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            Dwight89
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            @jordan-buckner

            1. That comment was back in 2019, before Covid. I think that’s important (I’m not defending Maher’s comments at all, just fyi)

            2. It really is a stretch, in my view. Maher represents the extreme left, which is a small minority, in a similar way that Hannity or Tucker represent the extreme right. 

            3. Most importantly, this anecdote in no way proves the premise, it is an assumption with no evidence to back it up. 

          • #127067

            UtMtBiker
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            @utmtbiker

            That was the before the pandemic handled things. A recession isn’t really needed to move the needle against him at this point.

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      Dallas
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      @dallas

      I still have a feeling it’ll be cancelled. Sure hope I’m wrong.

    • #126983
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      AlohaUte
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      @alohaute

      I almost guarantee Football will be played in the fall. There is simply too much money, and as a result too many Universities that absolutely rely on the money from Football. I could see DivII and lower and maybe FCS cancelling, but I’d be shocked if FBS cancels, especially the P-5’s. You think the University of Alabama could survive without Football money?

      Also, considering Football can learn from the successes and failures of other sports, they should be able to put reasonable protections in place. For instance keeping players in a bubble of sorts is important, to which having students in class remotely and not on campus would greatly benefit that.

      So I think quite the opposite of you, Football is more likely to happen than not, even if it shouldn’t.

      • #126984
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        @a2ute

        I have no doubt schools are going to try (because of $$). I just don’t see it lasting more than a couple of weeks before someone test positive. Unless this is a lock down bubble, there is no way college kids won’t get the “rona” within days of getting on campus. It’s not going to happen.

         

        • #126989
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          GameForAnyFuss
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          @gameforanyfuss

          Not sure why Debbie is getting downvotes for this. This is what is most likely to happen.

    • #126986
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      Charlie
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      @charlie

      Why not try? Where do students go that has no covid risks? If we shutdown schools and colleges we will have quite a mess when covid reaches its end. That option is bad when you don’t even know the date for when we are dealing with only common flu. What about the thoughts of others that want to take manageable steps and continue with their lives. I expect the teams to try to make a season go with only the students and staff that wish to try. Those that don’t want the risk should do what they would if we closed the schools. Some students and staff could peruse online options to the extent they can be put together. I expect the bigger question is do we have fans in the stands or watching TV. TV is much better than nothing.

      In risk management, we often have more risks than can be addressed given limited resources and time. An important principal of risk management would tell us not to treat all concerns the same when the cost of risk varies greatly across the population. In asset management a common strategy is to focus resources on the highest risk concerns, tapering off focus in the midrange and living with the low risk threats. This recognizes limits to removal of all risks and looks to optimize efforts to do what you can. If I was to apply that to the overall covid risk, I would put the most focus on assisting high risk individuals with a firewall separating them from the general population. They would need to accept responsibility to assure their protection. Those with significant possibility of risks should take measures less than a firewall but work hard at it. Those with little risk may go thru the most reduced measures. But it is important to note, even without schools open there continues to be covid risk for all.

      In the extreme, everyone has the right to cocoon at home to the extent they have means. No student or staff should be forced to school. As a corollary, why should they be concerned if others choose to try to make school happen or make football happen? Choice is important, but with choice comes some individual responsibility to make your own choices work. I don’t want to tell anyone to go to school or to stay home from school. I do support requirements like mask and washing hands for entry. I think we will try.

    • #126987
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      Duhwayne
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      @duhwayne

      Remember when curfew violations caused suspensions? Think we can keep 85 20 year olds in a bubble for four months? Given how much wishful thinking has governed this national sh1tshow, maybe we’ll actually try. Good luck with that.

      https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/michigan-state-football-team-placed-under-quarantine-after-additional-positive-covid-19-tests/

      • #126992
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        @a2ute

        Campuses will be a corona cruise ship within days/weeks of opening. No way will they be able to keep athletes away from the virus.

        They’ve already desiginated three dorms at MSU strickly for quarenteen and treatment….they know what’s coming. 

    • #126997
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      Charlie
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      @charlie

      I agree there is a lot of concern. Can we assume students without college will not gather anywhere, get together or see each other? Will life without college have much less interaction? I would hope we don’t simply suffer about the same but without being productive.

      Sadly, Europe will go back to school before we do. The underling reason others do better is they are not divided and angry like we are. They work together and follow their leadership much better in a crisis. Some will say we lack leadership, however, there is not a single moment we have been united behind any leader even in a step that is clearly correct. We have a culture that would prefer to argue over address a crisis. The shocking data showing how much better other countries are doing has not got us sober and willing to work together yet.

      The elephant in the room is not the question for school opening so much, it is are we willing to look at successful countries in this crisis and adopt some of their methods even if it requires us to work together and place politics in a small managed box. When was the last time we saw the USA finish near last? It would have to be some point when we were this much divided. We could do much better at closing out this virus.

      • #126999
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        Central Coast Ute
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        @flip2848

        So when Europe goes back to school, are those kids not going to get the virus or are they just automatically immune because they’re European?

        • #127001
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          SkinyUte
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          @skinyute

          If European countries somehow end up with the same level of virus outbreak that the US is currently experiencing, I fully expect that they will shut things down to ensure safety as well. 

      • #127069
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        UtMtBiker
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        @utmtbiker

        They also have a real sense of community. Not the selfish, me first, American attitudes that have put us where we are.

    • #126998
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      AlohaUte
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      @alohaute

      That’s true, but if most Universities go to on-line / remote only then the safest place for the players to be would be on campus as no one else will there. It will be interesting to see if the U sticks with the hybrid or goes to almost all on-line. I’m going to be teaching a course there this next semester and my course is 100% online.

    • #127015

      Charlie
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      @charlie

      I am not opposed to on-line. To have football, I assume students beyond athletes need to be on campus. Hopefully, we can manage our lives on campus or at work as well as we would out of school or out of work. I assume young people will date much the same in or out of school. The incremental difference college adds for infection, I hope, can be somewhat managed and minimized. But I expect being on campus creates more interaction than staying at home. Testing and contact tracing has been reported as key for countries that are doing well. I expect that can be better in a structured campus environment than unstructured environments away from college. I just don’t expect closing colleges to be a significant step in closing out covid.

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