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Another bonus to no bowl game! The other being this godforsaken clusterfuck of a season being extended.

Reading this topic makes me realize I know even less about the Big 12 and its teams than I thought.

Thanks Jim for your perspective. I believe you are spot on.

Kliavkoff was old school and reactionary. Probably viewed his mandate simply as one to negotiate a deal for the PAC 12. Didn’t see the landscape rapidly changing in college football all around him and I believe was naively broadsided by it all.

Yormark seems to be by contrast,…[Read more]

I agree McMahon. Yormark was aggressive and saved the Big 12. Kliakoff expected ESPN and Fox to cave in and give the Pac 12 the money they wanted. The west coast time zone doesn’t draw the eyeballs and especially when you take USC and Oregon out (similar to Ok and Texas).

It came down to who could get the first deal as it turned out. The Big 1…[Read more]

Hate is a pretty strong word. I don’t much care for the B12 today or even previously. Born and raised in the upper midwest never much caring about the South West Conference or any of the Big iterations that followed. True in the yesterday and true today. It might seem a novelty to some here on the Wasatch but it really is as bland as oatmeal for breakfast.

The Big 12 has long had the approach of spreading out rivalries through the later weeks of the season rather than pitting them in direct competition with each other and other league rivalries. In general, it’s a smart move.

With the expanded conference numbers, there are only 4 ‘protected’ rivalries in the Big 12 right now (that will be played…[Read more]

A lot of us were wrong on this season. I’d say everyone but I’m sure somewhere there was a monkey with a keyboard who was able to predict this

Following. I still will follow and watch the Utes, but my interest in putting money out to travel to away games (and I don’t live in Utah) is waning with the whole college environment – NIL/transfers, etc. I’ve been to Tempe, Tucson, Boulder, and TCU (back in MWC days), but none of the other places (ok, have passed through Waco, Lubbock, and…[Read more]

With lots of teams moving in/out last few years, making a schedule was somewhat tricky. I have the impressions the league wants to move the Holy War to this last weekend.

Also tricky that unlike the PAC12, we don’t have a lot of traditional rivalries. Really just have Utah/BYU, the Kansas and Zona schools. Was chatting with a TCU group on TRAX…[Read more]

I was really looking forward to @UCF with 2 cousins that went there and live in FL and now my parents snowbird there. But it wouldn’t have been the whole family and other travel partners weren’t going to do it due to Thanksgiving, so it fell through. Glad it didn’t work out I guess, but sad we are 4-7 going into it rather than the hoped for 10-1…[Read more]

If this season would have met expectations Or even if Utah had a winning record would Utah fans still hate the Big 12?

With all of my heart. Outside of the 3 teams we came with I want to be associated with any of them from a football or overall athletics standpoint or an academic standpoint and least of all a cultural standpoint. I don’t mind a…[Read more]

Yeah same. I was thinking about it. Best friend lives in Tampa and he’s a big Ute fan. Didn’t pull the trigger either. Glad I didn’t.

There you go.

Given the cards he was dealt it looks to me like Yormark has come pretty close to maximizing his product. He took the B12 from the verge of collapse to 3rd-most-stable of conferences and apparently most stable outside the 2 dominant conferences. At least for now that is.