Trump signs NIL overhaul order to curb big money influence in college sports
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RoboUte.
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The Miami Ute
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Ute Dub
ParticipantI don’t get it. How is a “3rd party” different from a NIL endorsement?
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2008 National Champ
ParticipantWhen I was at Utah in the late 80’s, it was the same time period UNLV was putting together great basketball teams. One of their players, Greg Anthony, started a tee shirt company that was relatively successful. The NCAA, in their shortsightedness, gave him the option of giving up his company or giving up his scholarship and paying his own way to school. All the under the table money in college sports at that time and they wasted their efforts on a guy who figured out a way to earn an honest living while going to school? How many times could the NCAA have made reasonable accommodations over the decades that would have created a viable system instead of the sheetshow we are currently witnessing?
I’m glad somebody is trying to do something but after all my years of watching the NCAA be on the wrong side of damn near every decision, as well as my general skepticism of any government entity actually solving a problem instead of just using it for re-election purposes.,, without seeing an actual framework of how they will implement, let alone who gets to decide “fair market value” I’m not going to pretend that this is a landmark EO. I’ll hope for the best but also be fully prepared for nothing to change in the short term.
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Kirk Herbstreet
ParticipantInterest in college sports…Rising (for the first time in 2 years). If this has the effect I hope it has, I might actually watch more than half of the games this season.
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Grizzly Adams
ParticipantStill no clear guidelines on who is going to monitor NIL and how they are going to enforce it. I don’t see any changes coming to how things are currently done. Not until an official regulatory body is established and the first punishment for pay-to-play is actually enforced. For now, it’s still the Wild West.
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RedRocks
ParticipantBased on the chatter I am seeing, I expect this to do….. nothing.
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Chasqui
ParticipantJust like the vast majority of executive orders. The cats out of the bag.
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chinngiskhaan
ParticipantI don’t think things are going to get much better guys. I think the NCAA as we knew it is toast. How can they possibly regulate this in a way that evens out the competitive balance? They’ve already gotten rid of the BS amateurism stuff. The courts have spoken, and players are now (justifiably) allowed to profit off of their NIL. That will never change unless colleges and athletes collectively bargain, and the athletes sign away that right in exchange for some other perk, which is of course never going to happen.
The only way any of this changes meaningfully is through teams and players and leagues getting together and binding themselves to some new rules. The odds of that happening with a group bigger than just the SEC and B1G are pretty small if not zero.
The NCAA had a good thing and they got too greedy and screwed it all up. Conferences wanted the right to broadcast more than a few games a year on TV, and to negotiate their own TV deals, the NCAA said no and tried to control it, and the NCAA lost. Teams wanted to pay their assistant coaches more than a few thousand bucks a year, the NCAA said no, and again lost in court. Again and again and again they had every opportunity to see the wrting on the wall that they couldn’t hoard all the money for themselves, and they ignored it. Then the courts got fed up with waiting for the NCAA to adjust and make things fair, and they refused. Then O’bannon sued the NCAA and opened the floodgates and here we are.
Things are not going back to the way they were. Either we get alumni to pony up more or we will forever be a second or third rate athletic institution.
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UteBacker
ModeratorCollege football is complete mess.
The government wants to help.
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Tony (admin)
KeymasterThat got me laughing… good one.
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HoosierUte
ParticipantThis does nothing. “pay to play” was already against the “rules.” This order specifically allows third-party payment for NIL which is the landscape we have now. This issue requires actual legislation with a framework, or even better, the government should stay out of it and allow the schools (conferences, or dare I say NCAA) to develop their own framework. The wild west system is unsustainable; a one-page exec order is not going to fix anything.
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PhillyUte
ParticipantThe things this man will do in order to not release the list he is most definitely on
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UteThunder
ParticipantSure he is. That’s why Biden, Harris, Garland, and the rest of the Dems who were doing anything and everything they could to put Trump in prison and keep him from running/winning in 2024 never released the list that Trump is definitely on. 🙄
The logic of the left never ceases to amaze.
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RedRocks
ParticipantI wish people would stop treating political parties as if they were sports teams deserving of loyal fans.
We are not opponents and should be working towards a greater good instead of becoming extreme and divided.I understand that our opinions on what ‘greater good’ means will differ. This is why we vote and have other forums for discussion. Vote during elections, not on a sports message board. Whoever gets the last word or yells the loudest is not necessarily right.
The logic of the ‘left’ looks bad to the ‘right’. The logic of the ‘right’ looks bad to the ‘left’. The sooner we can realize that and think for ourselves the better.
The reality is, if that list/evidence exists, there are probably lots of people on it who don’t want it to come out. They are more rich and powerful than you and I. Democrats and Republicans. If the allegations are true, they should all go to jail. Reality is not always black and white, nor is it fair (unfortunately).
I understand that religion and politics are often a large part of life. I just wish that we could be a little more friendly about it on a sports message board (if we want it here at all).
Cheers!
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PhillyUte
ParticipantYawn. Whatever bud. Never said anything about left or right. Go Utes!
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RoboUte
Participant“I was Donald’s closest friend for 10 years.” When asked about the man Epstein said “The moral compass just
does not exist.” You worship a man a pedophile is disgusted by.So why doesn’t a man whose biggest campaign promise was to release that list, release the list? Should be easy, right?
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