You know what I’m looking forward to NOT seeing this season?
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EagleMountainUte.
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Tony (admin)
KeymasterThe every-game Troy Taylor triple reverse flea-flicker razzle-dazzle failure. Yes I know a couple of them worked, but most were horrible fails. Change my mind.
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FtheY
ParticipantI hear you there. I feel like they were broken up every time, but I don’t have the stats to say for sure.
I’m all about trick plays, but you have to have some sort of a success rate.
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Tony (admin)
KeymasterWell there’s the famous Covey TD pass which was great, but for the most part it seems like the plays resulted in lost yardage.
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UtMtBiker
ParticipantCovey to Huntly – TD
Covey to Fotheringham – TD
Covey scramble – 20ish
Covey scrabble – 10ish
Simpkins overthrow to Green – incomplete
Covey hit in the back field – loss of 5
Dixon hit in the back field – loss of 7
Dixon – gain of 5ish
Covey – no gain.All those were in 3 games I’ve watched the last 2 days on pac12 in 60. Seems about 50/50 success. Small sample size though.
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FtheY
ParticipantThe two covey throws were money, loved those plays
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EagleMountainUte
ParticipantWe tend to forget the bad with all that good from 2008. I remember being very frustrated at some weird plays from Ludwig. Every coach has them. Based on situation I get them. With a guy like Covey you gotta use him.
The part that I wonder about is it must work in practice against Utah’s scout team. So just assuming why they install some of those plays.
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BJA 13
ParticipantI’m excited for Ludwig 2.0. However, I too remember long sustained drives stalling on random triple reverse/trick plays that seemed unnecessary.
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Utesbyfive
ParticipantWasn’t that BJ that did that?
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EagleMountainUte
ParticipantDepends on what narrative fits your paradigm. Two minute drill with Johnson was a thing of beauty. But we had guys like Brown, Casteel and Reed. Guys who didn’t drop the f**king ball constantly.
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Charlie
ParticipantI am ok with getting the ball to Covey with run pass options, hopefully in good situations for success.
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KiYi-Ute
ParticipantI almost preferred those silly trick plays to watching A-Rod run the same failed outside screens behind the LOS on 3rd and 10 every damn game.
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chinngiskhaan
ParticipantI’m excited to not see entire offensive possessions where Moss doesn’t touch the ball. Troy Taylor was constantly trying to prove that his offense was effective rather than following the game plan. That selfish mentality from the OC lost us multiple games.
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salty-ute
ParticipantI agree. Although, I think that a reverse should be a normal play-call from the playbook. It keeps the defense from cheating and you have to exploit it if they’re over-pursuing. If the reverse is successful, it forces teams to adapt to it. This sets up the opportunity for a trick play reverse pass. The problem with Taylor was that he never ran a simple reverse; it was always a trickery passing play… The defense knew that if Utah ever ran a reverse, it would be a reverse pass, so safeties and DBs always stayed home.
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