Vote a thumbs up if you like the score and reasoning behind it.
My first dream score is 16-0. Stay with me, I picked this score as a finger to all those who set up this matchup.
Utah takes 8 drives to the 1-yard line, then kneels down, giving BYU the ball there. Then we score 8 safeties. The ratings and watchability would be in the tank. Yet still a dominant game for Utah.
My second score would be any of the following:
63-0 one more than we scored against Oregon.
69-0, self explanatory.
77-0, I remember Oklahoma beat aTm by this score one year. Probably my favorite score of all time. Eleven TDS is pretty demoralizing.
I like any of them. Whatever point spread humiliates the zoo football organization and the fanbase works for me. I’d prefer a large beatdown, but not sure if we have the offense to do that. Then again, our D could score some points.
A shutout. I bet that’s what Whitt is challenging the D with. I had a friend who played linebacker for Kyle and every week he’d write a number on the chalkboard. It was the number of games since BYU had been shutout. I think that 3-0 win in 2003 was immensely satisfying for Kyle, and having Michigan knock that off probably p**sed Kyle off. He wants that graphic to read Utah when it gets flashed and I hope no matter how many points we score that they score none.
A 2-0 win with a lot of kneeling down by Utah with nothing but business-like composure on our side would be the ideal way to p**s off the people who made this happen.
Won’t happen, but a man can dream.
I’d take 54-10 Utah
So I have been thinking about Utah’s style of Basketball vs Miami’s style of play. (I realize it has been a while since they played, but just barely put this together)
Utah plays a great fundamental based basketball game based on passing, movement, and utilizing the strengths of the players. This is credit to a great coach. I think Utah’s system with Poetl in the center is something that takes time to gel as players figure out how to run it and play together.
Miami played a system more based on quickness, depth, and athleticism. I think there system is great when they are making shots, getting steals, and getting transition points, but has some deficiencies in the half court.
Conclusion: I think Utah will be a better team at the end of the season when they gel whereas Miami will probably get knocked off in the early rounds when they hit a cold streak or match up with a team that matches their athleticism.
I think Utah has some real troubles come PAC12 play if Poeltl gets in foul trouble. He always gets one he doesn’t deserve and has to play really soft to avoid anymore. It is also really apparent Utah has glaring deficiencies when he is off the court. When he is on the court sometimes I get annoyed with the offense because they are not giving the ball to the best player on the court.
I agree. So frustrating to see the Utah wing players staring at Poeltl in the post with a 6’8″ guy on him and we won’t throw it in to him.
Agree Beehive, I’m not saying he should shoot every time, but Poeltl should touch the ball every time down court.
The main reason TDS got back into the game against us is because we stopped giving him the ball…for like 8 freaking minutes. I agree with the sentiment that he should always touch the ball.
hah true that. Isaiah Wright must have had a bet on BYU to cover the spread.
Didnt like how much quicker they looked than us at most every position. They beat us playing 1 on 1 and hitting a ton of jumpers.
I don’t think style of play had much to do with the Miami game. It was really simple: Miami was huge and deep. We have NOTHING in the middle when Poeltl is on the bench. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Jakob gets two early fouls, our guys aren’t hitting their shots. Game over. And that was all w/in the first 10 minutes of the game.
IF we can get better shooting out of our wings than we did that night, maybe we can weather the storm when Jakob sits, but I think – like most teams – we just have to hold our breath when our best player is on the bench. We don’t have Kentucky depth. Most schools don’t. With that said, I think our depth is above average for most D1 teams, but below the better P5 teams right now. Our lack of depth at the 5 is astounding. I’d kill to have Bachynski or Olsen this year. That’s about all we lack, but it’s a HUGE void.
They get two rivals, they get a huge fan base in Las Vegas albeit, they better have the ‘roach coaches’ stocked with Sunny-D and orange slices for TDS fans. They get a huge TV viewership as opposed to last years Miami Who Cares Bowl. Win-win!
ESPN is the winner here nonetheless of the outcome.
This game is on Utah, they had the Rose Bowl insight, and they choked it away. Deal with it! I’m not going to bitch-and-moan about it. It is what it is. But seeing the zoobs giddy with so much confidence, it’s going to be nice seeing them go home with their tails tucked back to Provo.
Utah will be -1 to -3 in this game. Should be close since TDS is playing Utah without their best players.
The SL Media will be hyping this game and “what can Utah do to beat the TDS”. And you know who they all will be picking…
GO UTES!
Yes the thing that concerns me is we have so many star players gone for this game: Booker, Hansen, Covey…
Let’s hear it people. What are your thoughts? Personally I’d rather leave byu to rot in its own irrelevance.
Had the Utes not gagged on themselves in the Arizona and UCLA games we would not be in this situation.
I may miss this game as I might be on a flight back home from New York after watching the Runnin’ Utes play Duke at Madison Square Garden.
Not excited. Lot to lose and little to gain.
I’m not happy but I’ll still be watching.
It’s disappointing that we finished so poorly down the stretch but honestly the more I think about it the more fired up I am to watch the boys beat the TDS! We’re better up front on both sides of the ball, our linebackers will be healthy, our corners are better than their receivers, Dimmick will be back and Whit owns them with weeks of prep. Hell, Travis will probably play well to top it off in his last game…offensively we’ll see but we’ll be able to run it against them.
The potential let down in the Sun bowl is now replaced by some serious motivation in my opinion. Our guys will be “chomping at the bit” to shut them up…again.
Went from not being very excited to can’t freaking wait. 10 wins, sending Donko out with a 5th straight loss, crushing their recruiting hopes and banishing them to independent purgatory! Get on board they’re gonna need you in Vegas!
^This is the attitude we as fans need to have. I’m sick of seeing fans on facebook or other blogs saying, “boycott the bowl!” We have no one to blame but ourselves for appearing so unappealing to the higher bowls. So now, play with a chip on our shoulders and pound the TDS into the dirt.
I texted my brother to see if he wanted to go. We went last year. He said he would consider. Then he came back saying that I had to promise I would pour beer on Zoobs.! I said I would. He then said I would have to promise to tip over a Zoob in a wheelchair and pour beer on while pronouncing them baptized in the Church of Latter Day Hedoniats. I’m thinking about it. What kind of beer would be appropriate?
P.S. My brother went to the U in the late ’70s and suffered under the Lavell Edwards era Zoobs
P.S.S. Already got my sign made for the game: PROTECT THIS JUNK!
DISAPPOINTED. We finished 9-3, tied for first in the South. That’s a good season. Let’s put things in perspective.
Ole Miss finished 9-3, and is headed to the Sugar Bowl against #16 Oklahoma St. They lost to CFB #19, unranked Arkansas and unranked Memphis. Best wins #2 Alabama, #20 LSU. Three of their wins are against UTM, Fresno St. and NMSU.
Michigan finished 9-3, and is playing in the Citrus bowl to play #19 Florida. Losses to #22 Utah, #3 Michigan St, and #7 Ohio St. Best win #13 Northwestern.
Utah finished 9-3, and is heading to the Las Vegas Bowl against unranked BYU. Losses to #25 USC, unranked Arizona, unranked UCLA. Best wins #14 Michigan and #15 Oregon.
#17 Baylor at 9-3 gets #10 North Carolina in the Russell Athletic Bowl. Losses to #4 Oklahoma, #11 TCU and 5-7 Texas. Best win #16 Oklahoma St.
Does anybody else see a very huge SEC bias? Ole Miss loses to a G5 and gets a NY6. Michigan’s losses are pretty hard to argue as quality losses. Baylor lost to 5-7 Texas.
In spite of our late season slide I think we still had a better season than Ole Miss and Baylor. Yet we didn’t get quite the bowl game we deserved. All three of those other teams get a ranked team in a much better bowl game. East Coast bias? Pac12 unrespected? Or did we just get the shaft?
P**SED! Let’s send the ‘Nut Punchers’ back to Provo with a broken ego.
GO UTES!
Maybe there will be a brawl in the stands that will convince Chris Hill to cancel all the remaining games…
I hope the Utes get new jockstraps and cups for this game.
we got robbed but it’s all about the $$. UCLA and USC are better teams for $$ in CA bowls. So…. here we are at the LV bowl again. part of me is sick and part of me wants to destroy TDS. unfortunately for me… i can’t go this year. i’ll be in SLC having driven up two days beforehand…. can’t adjust plans and dam i don’t want to drive 6 hours back to LV anyway. will watch on TV. GO UTES !
PS it just sickens me to see the zoobs talking smack about our bowl selection especially since many of them have been talking about this matchup for a while and we’ve been telling them to take their pipe dream elsewhere. eatin some crow !
Bowls used to be about rewarding good teams. This was before television and of course cable. Teams traveled by train and huge crowds would come out to wave as the train passed through town. Christmas parades drew huge crowds as well because there was nothing to do at home except play checkers or cards (no TV).
Ah, then comes TV and Cable. Now teams go where the bowl/conference/TV network can make the most money. Utah would have been in the Sugar, Outback, Citrus or some other New Year day bowl game except Ole Miss, Arkansas and the like will sell more tickets than Utah would.
Not fair but that is the way the dollars fall.
Nothing to gain by playing in this game. That being said, I feel pretty good about kicking the crap out of the zoobs.
Their giddiness is due to the fact that Booker & Covey are out. This will be their best chance to get a W but I still like the Utes chances. Come out p**sed and hungry and Utes win this 28-10.
GO UTES!
Nothing to gain by playing in this game. I agree and this gives BYU the edge. This is the same way Bama fans (including myself) felt in 2008 when we fell from #1 to face a MWC Utah in the Sugar Bowl. We were number one right until the lost the SEC championship game. I hope the Utes are not so bummed out they are just going to go thru the motions.
I will back our team and more than likely watch the game, but I don’t want to hear the rhetoric of how the PAC12 doesn’t want repeat bowl appearances that is obviously bulls**t.
Glimpse into the Las Vegas bowl stands:
Travis Wilson and a very small group of players will be the first ever to beat byu at Rice-Eccles, at LES, and on a neutral field. TW is probably the only starter who can claim this distinction.
Who else on the team has played all 4 years? Porter? Aiono? Did Norris or Whittingham play as FR?
At least its on ABC…
Not especially. Whitt always has a strong gameplan for the Team Down South. Plus, even with our injuries, we still match up really well. Our D and O lines are superior to the Zoob’s. Booker is out, yes, and BYU-P fans are reveling in that fact; but they seem to forget about a kid named Joe Williams who (if he can hang on to the ball) will run BYU into the ground.
Not to mention the #2 overall defense in the PAC: #1 in INTs, #1 in Rush Defense, #3 in Pass D. Efficiency.
Oh, and BYU has only played one ranked opponent all season, and lost.
Not predicting an outright win just yet, that will depend on which Travis Wilson shows up in Vegas. But overall, I feel pretty confident.
With half the team injured and unable to play and no decent passing game at all? Sure. Definitely nervous.
This is a no-win situation for the Utes.
If they beat byu they were supposed to. If they lose, the zoobs will be going all tarzan pounding their chests about it.
I sure hope not. No idea what goes on in A-Rod’s head. In fact, I’m not sure he knows what’s going on in his own head most of the time. Ever since Oregon he hasn’t dialed up a consistent offensive game plan.
Was the Oregon game plan “that” good or did Oregon just s**t the bed that day? I’m not so sure anymore after watching our offense the last few weeks.
Have a little ‘faith’ Tony, it’s all on the TDS now. Overconfidence can be a weakness.
Apparently, KT has been taking reps at receiver since Covey and Scott will be out.
Could be interesting.
Apparently, KT has been taking reps at receiver since Covey and Scott will be out.
Could be interesting.
I’ve been hoping for something like that all year. He’s got some running talent. Get him the damn ball.
been a wilson supporter forever and to an extent i still am. however, if he isn’t getting it done, we need a quick hook for sure. if he throws an INT to the LB, i will throw a temper tantrum for sure ! need to give KT some time if it isn’t happening. TW did have a great game last year in the LV bowl. we do seem to give him very little credit for the read option (running). he is very very good at that.
Nervous no, just disappointed. The last four quasi-great QB’s to come out of Provo are a combined 0-4 against Utah. And that includes Taysom “Glass Legs” Hill and “Heisman and National Championships” Heaps (54-10 anyone). If anybody’s nervous, it’s Tatum Mango, it’s all on his shoulders to beat Utah in the last six years. I don’t think he’ll be up to the challenge. Utah has played against better QB’s in the Pac-12 (Goff, Rosen, Adams) and shut them well below their usual stat lines.
I’m sure the TDS’ O-line is nervous, as well as the pathetic TDS secondary and rush defense (I can’t even name a player on the TDS’ front-7?). But I’m sure they’re all TDS ‘LEGENDS’? Shall we talk about Special Teams where the game might come to in field position and kickers?
I expect Utah’s ‘B and C’ squad to still beat TDS’ ‘A-Team’.
Too bad Utah got passed over from the Foster Farms Bowl (3.3 mil payout + ‘P5’ opponent) to play a Big XII wannabe in the RPLV Bowl (1.3 mil).
Better win the game TDS, it’s really on you. You begged for it, now you got it.
Wait, the last four QB’s lost to Utah? I remember two. Nelson and Hill. Hill was great, Nelson was a bum. The two guys before that, Hall and Beck had three wins. Mangum is already as good as Hall was his sophmore year. Mangum will be one of the better QB’s you have faced. Unfortunately for you guys you have to deal with him 4 times.
Your comment on the pass rush was…uninformed. Bronson Kaufusi has 11 sacks. The BYU has 37 on the year, tied for 6th nationally. Utah sits down the list at 20. BYU has 15 int’s on the year, only 4 fewer than Utah. You are living in the past. This BYU D is different. Run D is our weakness. Fortunately for us, we won’t see Booker and your backup is banged up.
We’ll see Lone Wolf. Pressure is all on Tatum Mango. Travis has won on a bigger stage for a few years. You’ll see the “BULL DOG”. And we’ll see ‘TDS v. Michigan’ Tatum Mango at the RPLV Bowl. I can’t wait now.
GO UTES!
Comparing sack statistics between the two teams with such different strength of schedules is not really meaningful.
You’re a smart guy Tony. Sure it’s meaningful. BYU didn’t play a PAC schedule, but it wasn’t a Sunbelt schedule either. Kaufusi is a top 3 rounder.
Lone Wolf, you are correct it isn’t a Sunbelt schedule. Not even the Sunbelt would stoop so low as to play mighty Wagner.
Not even the Sunbelt would stoop so low as to play mighty Wagner.
LOL
32 of BYU’s sacks came in their 8 games against G5 teams plus one FCS team, with a high of 8 against Cincinnatti. That’s an average of 4 sacks per G5/FCS game.
Just 5 total sacks in their 4 games against P5 teams, for an average of 1.25 sacks per game. Notably, 0 sacks against UCLA and 0 sacks against Missouri.
So it looks like there’s not much to worry about BYU’s sack prowess as it was largely accomplished against bottom of the sack competition.
P.S. Watching Lowell Lutulei manhandle Koroma will be an epic joy.
I knew someone (other than me) would come up with some realistic sack stats… lol.
are you saying people actually care about BYU?
We were tossed in the Vegas bowl with a crappy MWC team after a good season last year, and the team came out to prove a point. Proved that team they paired us with did not belong on the same field as us. Now we’ve been straight disrespected after having a really good season in the Pac 12, and given a 9-3 indy team who hasnt beaten a single team with a pulse all season. Does the team have it in them to prove the same point in the same game in back to back years?
We might be in a power conference, but we are clearly still the underdog. Need to keep that mentality. The LA schools will always be picked above us in bowls. We are still the little guy, and need to play with a gigantic f(#(*@ chip on our shoulder. Always.
I was really hoping that we wouldn’t be going back to Vegas, but now that we are I hope we absolutely curb stomp the Zoobs who’ve been praying for this match up all season. Send Roscoe off to Virginia with another Utah loss, and one win shy of 100.
F**k BYU.
Screw the PAC 12 and Chris Hill for letting this happen.
What you guys don’t understand is that outside of your bubble nobody cares about Utah football. Wazzu is a much more appealing and entertaining program to the rest of the country. I hop this sinks in. It’s time for you all to get off your high horse. You aren’t as great as you think you are. The reality is that BYU and Utah are pretty comparable programs.
Keep telling yourself that zoob, but both teams are no longer comparable. Utah didn’t need ‘fluke’ plays to beat one bad and one mediocre team. Good for you, something to brag about.
If the pressure is on anyone, it’s the TDS and especially Tatum Mango. They wanted it so badly versus Utah. Now they have it and if they lose… I guess it won’t matter because the usual laundry-list of excuses will be all over Zoob-board, SLTrib, KSL and DNews.
Lone Wolf, we’ll see if you have the guts to come back and talk after the TDS loses? We’ll see?
The reality is that BYU and Utah are pretty comparable programs
LOL.
Where each school is at as a program is beside my point. Utah has had better seasons than the bowl they were invited to would indicate in back to back years. Part of that is the terrible bowl affiliations of the P12. But its a sign that while we have a seat at the P5 table, there is still work to do
BYU is only known nationally for being nut punchers and lgbt haters. Don’t get too big of a head here, Wolfie.
I am wondering if we will see a tweet from a byu coach saying, “Come to Vegas. Watch how I sin!”
The reality is that BYU and Utah are pretty comparable programs.
Uh, no. Not they are not.
Meh! My college football season ends on 19 December. 🙂
Yeah me too, especially if Alabama wins.
I think Alabama is out first round again
I think Alabama is out first round again
I hope you’re right, but I doubt you’re right.
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