Utah Utes Fan Board

1MNUte
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Is it petty of me to hope Colorado gets embarrassed tonight?

  • Utemachine
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    Yes it is. But I was in person at the game this year and I want the Buffs to get pummeled. I am petty as well.

  • Newbomb Turk
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    I just want Southern Cal to lose. I don’t want Penn St. to win, but I want Southern Cal to lose.

    Also, I see that the SEC has lost 3 of 4 so far, and that pleases me.

    I am very petty.

  • Utemachine
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    Our wishes are shaping up nicely.

  • TexanUte
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    I don’t think its petty. Is it petty of me to have higher expectations for the program than a middling P5 school. We now have the facilities, location (yes it is desirable to lots of city kids from Cali and Texas as well as Pacific Islanders) so what’s the problem?
    – Tradition?
    – Need more time to build program?
    – Coaching

    In my little fantasy thought experiment if Urban Myer had never left do you think we would have won a south title yet? In my experiment I see multiple championships if not an outright conference championship.

  • 1

    If a loss in a bowl game hurts recruiting then I want all the pac12 teams to get blown out.  Utes have their W . Thats the only W in the P12 that matters.

     

  • Larry B

    We may end up being the only ranked team to beat our unranked opponent

    I’m not sure that’s really an accomplishment but it’s kinda interesting. 

  • Larry B

    And just as I say that, VA Tech scores 21 unanswered. 

  • 3UteDad

    Reports of a shooting on the U campus?

    Anyone know any details?

  • UtesRock

    Wakara Way there was an incident. Anything more out there?

  • PlainsUte

    Fox13 says it appears one body is visible…

     

    500 S. Chipeta Way ARUP Laboratories parking lot

  • PlainsUte

    Another update – woman killed, man then shot himself, in “grave” condition

    kutv.com

  • UtesRock

    Pointless.

  • Hypodactylus

    Shannon Spake

    But what did she say?

    ….

    So stupid, but I couldn’t stop thinking this when they said her name last night…

  • jamarcus24

    Ever since the “nice leather pants” comment I get all anxious when I watch a broadcast and she’s on the sideline because I know the camera is never going to show a full body shot of her and inquiring minds really want to know if she wears nice leather pants.

    • 96GradAlum

      • 96GradAlum

        not sure why this post doesn’t show but if you click it, it will take you to her twitter acct where there is a pic of her in some leather pants, once you’re there click the image to get a full shot

        • Tony

          @96gradalum I fixed it for you. To post a tweet, you simply paste the URL of the tweet on its own line in the text editor. You had clicked the image button and put it inside an image tag.

  • Uterider
    1 1

    Running home to Mommy

    Well with a month to prepare our offensive brain trust faced a number of challenges: Improve the red zone production, get the throw game working and shore up pass protection.

    Instead they installed the Weddle package for Huntley. MOMMEEEEY!

    When they HAD to score they pretty much abondoned the throwgame. Patrick and Singleton combined for 3 catches and 37 yards.Williams was sacked five times. The two best pass plays all night were a swing pass to Joe Williams and a flea-flicker by Huntley.

    Y’know, it’s almost like these guys knew they couldn’t throw it, so they ran home to mommy. Enter the Weddle package.

    They called 52 running plays vs 24 pass attempts. All season long it’s been balance, balance, balance. But when they really had time to work on the offense it was all run.

    They know who they are. Better put, they know who they aren’t. T. Williams has regressed badly. Patrick can’t get open. The O-line is a sieve in pass protection. A-Rod is unable to change any of that.

    So okay, let’s give them all another season. But when we do, get ready for a 2-1 run vs. pass “balance” on offense. Why we don’t just go wishbone is beyond me. No it’s not, A-Rod doesn’t know how to install it.

    Can Zach Moss carry the ball 30 times a game next year? How long before he’s hurt? Shyne and Moss good for 40 carries a game, with Huntley keeping it 10 and maybe somebody else twice? That’ll get us to the 52 carry mark like last night.

    Things are gonna change next year my friends, and we saw a glimpse into the future last night in the fourth quarter with the game on the line. These guys can’t coach a throwgame and they admitted it to themselves last month in preparation for the bowl. They let the rest of us in on it last night. MOMMMMEEEE!

     

     

  • UtahFanSir
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    I thought it revealing that when push came to shove, the passing game was minimized to the run game, and in the red zone, Huntley took over. And as you astutely pointed out, the coaches had a month to prepare. Minor wildcard, TW2 was banged up while we are told he has been less than 100% for half of the season.

    KW in the TV post game (and at many other junctures in the season) was all over trying to figure out these perennial deficiencies. Urban Meyer already knows what the problem is, whether it is one or both co-offensive coordinates and their basket of plays or the receivers and their coach or the QB or all of the above. Or something else entirely. He has likely told KW or is prepared to if asked. This is not rocket science. 

    i don’t know, above my pay grade. But I do await with bated breath to hear what KW does over the next month. A QB coach appears to this seat as a no brainer. 

    • Utah
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      This dream of an amazing pass game will never happen under Whitt.

      Why? Because there is no over-rated thing in the world than passing stats. Teams that throw the ball a gazillion times don’t win. 

      Teams that run the ball and destroy other teams win much more often than they lose. 

      We don’t need to figure out a way to throw for 300 yards per game. 

      We need to figure out a way to throw for 220 yards per game with 4-5 fewer attempts. 

      We need to become more efficient passing the ball. We don’t need to throw more often. We need to make our throws count more. 

      We needed a WR coach and a QB coach. I think Holliday did a good job this year and should stay. 

      We now need a QB coach. Someone to teach our QB’s to be better and more efficient. 

      Our deep balls were fine this year. Only Washington had more big plays in the passing game.

    • Big Kahuna

      So the streaming worked from Argentina or Antarctica? Impressive old man.

  • After that interception it was literally it for TWilliams. Even that one he threw in the back of the endzone he wasn’t trying to complete a pass just dont screw up. 

  • MotherJabubu

    Whitt preaches balance but in reality, if he could get away with it he would run the ball 80 times per game

    • Utah
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      And he’d be smart to do so. I’d bet that teams win well over 90% of the times they run over 50 times. 

      • UteThunder

        And I’d bet you are wrong. At least in the sense that simply running the football a lot causes you to win.

        Look at it this way: Do teams win because they run the ball a lot? Or did they run the ball a lot because they were winning?

        If running the football 50 times per game led to a .900 winning percentage, every coach in the country would abandon the pass.

        I recall when Urban was here, he mentioned that he wanted his offense to be balanced to the point of 50% of yards coming from the pass and 50% coming from the run because teams that can do that win a lot of games.  

         

  • Puget Ute
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    FWIW, Indiana is known in the Big 10 for their stout defense and physical play. Even Michigan could only manage 20 points against them.

    Still, if CBB was on kickoff return duty (first fumble), and those two 4th quarter fumbles don’t happen, we win comfortably.

    But Indiana had a vote in the outcome, and they were decidedly more amped up for the game. Their enthusiasm was infectious.

  • UteThunder

    What to make of the Co-OCs . . .

    Looking at our offensive production since joining the Pac-12, I found some interesting info. Looking strictly at Pac-12 play, last year and this year have been the two best seasons as far as Scoring Offense and Total Offense goes.

    Knowing this, I feel very conflicted regarding A-Rod and Harding.

    On the one hand, they seem to be terrible OCs and their inability to produce more offensively is the big hang up preventing this team from being great. 

    On the other hand, they are better than anyone we have had since Ludwig and the offense did improve overall from 2014 to 2015 and again from 2015 to 2016. There is also the consistency factor of having the same OCs for the 3rd straight year, something we haven’t had since Ludwig was here.

    Maybe having them come back for a third year wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Then again, we won’t have Joe Williams next year and he almost single handedly made our offense as effective as it was.

     

  • Milton Vanderslice
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    Also Joe Williams ruined the development of Moss, McCormick, and Shyne who were looking good at Cal.  With Williams getting 90% of the reps, the others didn’t have a chance to grow much.  So I don’t know if we would have been as in trouble as people say had Williams not come back.  However, we would have lost to OSU.

    Joe playing was awesome but when we have a single star at one position like that, the guys underneath pay the price.

    • jamarcus24
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      Joe was a very fortunate solution to a desperate measure.  I don’t think their development was ruined by Joe returning but was probably moreso curbed because they were all injured, and unforutunately for them they were all injured at the same time.

    • Hypodactylus

      Huh? This does not make much sense.  While there is truth that the guys behind Williams did not get as much experience, it seems pointless to lament the fact that we had a star running back.

    • noneyadb
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      Milton-

      Your bitching and moaning about one of the best RB’s in college football right now taking away from the development of a kid that tore up his knee, another that’s too small to play as a P5 RB, and another kid that’s a freshman and was also injured…  I now understand the Utah fan base wanting coaches fired. Thanks.

      • Milton Vanderslice
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        I’m not calling for any coaches to be fired.  What I am doing is responding to the “Oh no, our entire offense is leaving”.  We’ve had this oh no problem every year it seems like, White, Booker, Williams.  The only way to not have the bulk of your offense leave is to spread the ball around.  That’s all I’m trying to say.  Joe’s greatness changed the way the season would have looked without him.  Had we not had Joe, we would have really seen what our OCs are made of.  Just some rambling thoughts.

        • Utah
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          I agree with Milton. He isn’t being negative, he is stating a fact. Once again, the Utah coaches put all their eggs in one basket and it almost cost them. If Williams has a hair less energy, we lose last night. 

          Once again, if we had any sort of pass game, or developed any other runners behind Williams, we could have finished much stronger this year. 

          It’s part of the reason why we struggle so much in November. 

          We spend the first third of the season highlighting one guy, the second third teams start to figure out that one guy, and the final third we struggle, because we have nothing else. 

          It was the same with John White, then Booker and then Joe this year. 

          Look back at Booker’s last year. What if, instead of giving the ball to Booker 30 times a game, we gave him the ball 20 times and Joe 10 times? What if, Joe breaks off a couple of long TD runs. What if, because he wasn’t worked so hard, Booker doesn’t get hurt? 

          You’d think we’d learn our lesson, but nope. We did the same exact thing this year. I LOVED it when we had Asiata and Wide. Why we can’t go back to that blows my mind. 

          • noneyadb

            Fumblin Joe. There’s a reason why he wasn’t used as much last year.

            PLAN TO WIN- Time tested and infallible

             1. Play Great Defense

             2. Take care of the Football

             3. Score in the Red Zone

             4. Great Special Teams

             

        • Red Don

          Had we not had Joe, we would have really seen what our OCs are made of.”

           

          And that’s a frightening thought. It’s like a hot dog, I don’t know want to know what they’re made of. Harding might be OK, I don’t think we really know. Co-anythings never work. Ever. If two people are in charge of something, then no one is in charge. Our QBs leave the same as they entered, maybe even worse for some.

           

          I don’t want another year of ARod doing anything. We need a real QB coach and someone that is halfway innovative running the offense. There’s a lot of these guys out there. Does anyone think Saban will now hire his brother or some buddy of his to replace Kiffin? No he’ll get someone that knows what they’re doing. There is NO ONE in the entire nation considering Harding or ARod for their next OC position. That should tell Whitt something.

          • sacute

            Saban hired Sarkisian to be the new Offensive Coordinator at Alabama.