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    89ute

    Ratings drop for CFP.

    Last year 15.5 for the early game and 15.3 for the late one. 9.9 for Oklahoma/Clemson, 9.7 for Alabama/MSU.

    I watched the first one and suffered through the 2nd one. I thought the Oklahoma/Clemson game was pretty good.

    So, was it because the games were on New Year’s Eve?

  • Tony

    2PM or whatever on New Years eve? I missed all but the last couple of minutes. New Years Day would be better for sure.

  • Last year I felt the college playoff did a lot of things right. This year it was a cluster. Just proves to me they need to make it a 6 or 8 team playoff.

  • I went for a hike with the wife and the dogs. Caught second half of the Bama vs Mich St game and it was a blow out. They blew it not including Stanford.

    The Big 12 is a joke. They should add BYU to toughen them up with nut punches.

  • 89ute

    Mora to Miami?

    Who’s next? 3 candidates who could be the Miami Dolphins’ next head coach

    I guess this explains why so many UCLA players are bailing for the draft.

    So now do we have to endure Witt to UCLA rumors? Personally, I think Whitt to UCLA is more likely than Whitt to USC.

  • Tony

    Whitt’s not going anywhere.

    • Are you sure? He never really publicly turned down the BYU job still. 😉

      I wonder if Roscoe withdrew his name already?

  • UCLA would not be able to sognicanlgy increase Whitt’s pay to offset the higher cost of living and the higher taxes in CA. I live in SoCal and I want to get the F out for those reasons, plus the over crowded conditions, traffic, and liberal lunacy. I laugh when Bill and OC say that UCLA is a dream job with the Campus being only 15 minutes from the beach. Trust me, nothing is 15 minutes on the West Side (of LA). Everything is literelly an hour or more to get around there.

    • Whitt rides his bike a lot to work. Maybe it is 15 minutes for him to the beach if he bikes?

      Also good for his family I guess but for a coach who cares where you live right? You are going to be in the office scheming for the next game, watching film, on the recruiting trail and etc. I think it just comes down to dollar signs a lot of times and lifestyle. Utah fits Whitt’s lifestyle who has lived around the nation in his lifetime.

      Edit:

      Now if Miami Dolphins (or any NFL team for that matter) offered Whitt I bet he takes it. Whitt would have a lot of former players in Miami to be kind of funny.

      • Whitt doesn’t go to the NFL. No job security. Boot going to uproot the family for a 3 year contract and your gig is dependent upon the draft.

        • 89ute

          I want to see you use sognicanlgy again in a sentence. I’m not sure, but I think that word could describe our free throws.

          • I retired as a trader due to fat thumb disorder. Now I just bark orders sognicanlgy.

            Couldn’t find the Hoops game on TV. WTF happened?

            • leftyjace

              It was on ESPNU. Took a bit for me to find as well.

  • 89ute

    UCLA Paul Perkins will enter the draft

    But they have a healthy handful of 5 star RBs waiting to take his place.

    UCLA has about another half-dozen underclassmen who may declare. With Perkins leaving, and Miles Jack, who declared a few months ago, I don’t think we need to worry that the experienced players are sticking around to make a title run. That’s good news as far as I’m concerned.

    UCLA RB Paul Perkins will enter NFL draft

  • Tony

    That’s the thing about those programs that get the good 4 and 5 star guys. Those players have 2-3 years typically.

  • I follow UCLA and they’re losing a lot of players to: 1) early departures to NFL Draft (as noted), Transfers (2, maybe 3), and quitters (2). They lose 3 starters off their OL. Wondering is there’s some discontent going on there. Mora is not an easy guy to play for. Hearing that the OL players do not like OL Coach Klemm.

    • 89ute

      Any Idea if we are in the running for any of their transfers? Are they guys we would want?

  • 2 years to sit why would we want them?

  • Tony

    Eagles fired Chip Kelly

    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Eagles-Release-Head-Coach-Chip-Kelly/fb1d79b9-7dd3-41c9-b964-85ac79d74f2b

  • Puget Ute

    That is not entirely unexpected, but I am sure a number of college teams are kicking themselves for hiring a new coach over the last few weeks. He would have been a good fit at Miami.

  • Jumpmasterute

    The word from CB and UFN is byu is dropping KS to pick him up… Sorry. I couldn’t resist.

    • YodaUte

      The word from CB and UFN is byu is dropping KS to pick him up… Sorry. I couldn’t resist.

      I’m pretty sure he’s not a card-carrying Mormon.

      But I hear the Utes are looking for a receiver’s coach…

  • Tony

    I’d take him as an OC. I think he could help the throw game.

  • 89ute

    I'd like to see our basketball team schedule more roadies in preseason.

    Only one true road game against Witchita State, plus the three neutral site tournament games and Duke in New york. I don’t think that’s enough to get a team ready for conference play. I don’t understand why we don’t play away games with smaller programs?

    Home 8-0 Away 0-1 Neutral 3-1

    I think I would have liked to have seen at least one more away game.

    I don’t see the harm in a road game against a team that we should beat, but will give us a good fight, especially walking into conference play with 3 straight roadies.

    I can’t help but to think we are headed into conference play a little unprepared.

  • Tony

    I understand what you are saying. Not sure it matters much to me.

    Conference play will be much more intense and the turnovers and lack of D will be a big issue.

  • 89ute

    This game right here is why I want more road preseason games. I don’t see what good it does to bring some crap team into the Hunty and hang a hunnerd on em when what we need is to learn how to hit free throws and execute on the road.

    • rbmw263

      thats a good point, but you set yourself up for a bad loss while the rest of the P5 is racking up wins at home until January. Im open to the idea, im just not sure the risk/reward lines up

  • Tony

    ^^^^ POD (Post of the day)

  • 89ute

    SI reports that if the Big 12's proposal to hold a title game with a 10-team …

    conference doesn’t gain approval next month at the NCAA Convention, then there is a significant chance the league will seek to expand to 12 in the next couple of years.

    Here’s the prevailing thought around the Big 12: If its legislation proposal gets shot down, there’s a roughly 70% chance the league will expand during the next year or two in order to get a title game. If the legislation passes, there’s less than a 50% chance of imminent change in the form of the Big 12 adding new members. There are many other variables in play, but this is arguably the biggest.

    IS THE BIG 12 SET FOR MAJOR CHANGE OR EXPANSION?

    I want to see the Big 12 add a conference championship, I want Notre Dame to join a conference and there is one particular team I want continued to be left out.

  • Puget Ute

    Notre Dame is sorta in the ACC.

    But I agree with the second statement …

  • leftyjace

    So… I have to be honest.

    I also don’t wish a lot of success on BYU.

    But you know what I think would guarantee very little success for them?

    Inclusion in a P5 conference.

    Think about it. It’s not like they’re going to get a rash of better recruits. The lifestyle, honor code, and other issues will still make BYU a less desirable destination.

    Yet if they’re in a P5 conference, they’re going to have a schedule that is going to destroy them year in and year out. They would become the Vanderbilt of whatever conference they are in.

    What’s so bad about that?

    Toss in the fact that more big name programs would come to Utah, and the State of Utah would get more exposure. I think having two P5 programs in our state could be a good thing.

    Plus whenever we beat the pants off of them (which will continue to happen, see the comment about recruiting above) it will increase our SOS more than if they were not in a P5 conference.

    • rbmw263

      Watching them rack up 10 wins annually on patsy schedules is frustrating. But the Big 12 is a winnable conference. Few tough games at the top, but it doesnt have near the depth as the P12 does. They would play schedules in the 30-40 range. I would love for them to get a taste of what playing a top 20 schedule is like. But is it worth them being in a power conference? I dont know. I kind of enjoy watching them squirm as they look up to us in the CFB hierarchy. If you read between the lines, you see that it bothers the ever loving s*#( out of them. Which is fine with me, considering they consider us to be the most vile scum on earth. Having that over them is really nice.

      Best outcome, imo, is the Big 12 expands and skips over them. They abandon ship and join the AAC or MWC. IF they ever joined a P5 conference, I would much rather it be the Pac 12. They would see first hand what life is like in this conference, and enjoy a few losing seasons themselves. We could also play them in a rivalry game that actually matters again, and do it without wasting an OOC game on it.

  • 89ute

    Damn, never thought of that. I couldn’t agree more. They would battle Kansas for the biggest steaming pile every year.

    However, I couldn’t handle the media-gasm. I’m also afraid we would not become the “Pac-12 City” I so often dream about. A city where sports media and fans are all Pac-12 all the time and BYU gets the same amount of run as Utah State.

    But then again, with your line of thinking, maybe it would be “all Pac-12/Big-12 all the time”.

    Hard to say, I hope we never find out.

    • leftyjace

      I see your point, and I totally appreciate it. You’re right, it would be nice to see BYU melt into obscurity.

      I would only personally be happy with them joining a P5 conference if they continued to be horrible and mediocre at best – and every indication is, they would be.

      Religion or not, people will only follow a losing program for so long. And if they stay loyal, when their kids get to their own decision making age, they’ll flip to a more successful program because they don’t have their parents’ blind loyalty to the school.

      So the longer BYU is a losing, piece of crap program, the better it becomes. Joining a P5 conference increases the likelihood of that happening.

      • Tony

        I suppose byu joining a P5 conference would be bad. They would start getting P5 money, which they could then improve their facilities and such, for better recruiting. I realize it’s tough to recruit to the world’s worst city, provo, but still. I’d rather see them rot in their independent world and disappear.

  • Tony

    Salt Lake is the Utes’ town. That POS down south is the zoo’s town.

  • coriander-seed

    When and where is the NCAA convention?

    • 89ute

      San Antonio, January 14-16. I read an article somewhere that the vote on whether or not the Big 12 can have a conference championship game without having to expand is the 15th.

  • I hope BYU gets invited to the Big 12, it would make football season much more interesting. We could have a rivalry similar to Iowa and Iowa State.

    • Wilson's Mustache

      Why would we want a rivalry like Iowa/Iowa State? That rivalry blows. I’m an Iowa student at it isn’t even in the top 5 most interesting games every year. Iowa State is the Big 12 cellar dweller…..

      OH I got it now.